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Old July 21st 03, 04:29 PM
M. Wehrmann
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Two actions haven't been fair:

1) Of course Jan did wait for Lance after the crash.
Jan often looked back, he had to change his rhythm.
Unfair was Lance' attack immediately(!) when he had arrived Jan.
Why Lance didn't wait some seconds?
Jan did not react in that moment - he just coudn't believe it ...

2) Unfair was Mayo: no work, 2nd place.
Mayo has stolen Ullrich 4 sec (= bonus time).
Maybe the decisive seconds in this TdF.

Let's hope Armstrong doesn't need that 4 sec. in the TT.

Manuel


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Old July 21st 03, 04:38 PM
Robert Oliver
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"M. Wehrmann" wrote in message
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Two actions haven't been fair:

1) Of course Jan did wait for Lance after the crash.
Jan often looked back, he had to change his rhythm.
Unfair was Lance' attack immediately(!) when he had arrived Jan.
Why Lance didn't wait some seconds?


I taped the OLN coverage. The attack comes about 1 minute after Lance got
back up to Ullrich, and the attack was started by Mayo, not Lance. Lance
simply matched it and then surpassed it.


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Old July 21st 03, 04:39 PM
David Ryan
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"M. Wehrmann" wrote:

Two actions haven't been fair:

1) Of course Jan did wait for Lance after the crash.
Jan often looked back, he had to change his rhythm.
Unfair was Lance' attack immediately(!) when he had arrived Jan.
Why Lance didn't wait some seconds?


Without fan interference Lance would have been way ahead anyway.
It looked like Ullrich was aware he was back.
And Ullrich had a respite to recover.

Jan did not react in that moment - he just coudn't believe it ...


Ullrich never reacts.

2) Unfair was Mayo: no work, 2nd place.
Mayo has stolen Ullrich 4 sec (= bonus time).
Maybe the decisive seconds in this TdF.

Let's hope Armstrong doesn't need that 4 sec. in the TT.

Manuel

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Old July 21st 03, 04:41 PM
SM
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Default Not fair!

maybe he should have gone back to Jan and asked if it was ok that he goes?
;-)

"Robert Oliver" wrote in message
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"M. Wehrmann" wrote in message
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Two actions haven't been fair:

1) Of course Jan did wait for Lance after the crash.
Jan often looked back, he had to change his rhythm.
Unfair was Lance' attack immediately(!) when he had arrived Jan.
Why Lance didn't wait some seconds?


I taped the OLN coverage. The attack comes about 1 minute after Lance got
back up to Ullrich, and the attack was started by Mayo, not Lance. Lance
simply matched it and then surpassed it.




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Old July 21st 03, 04:49 PM
Gerrit Stolte
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Default Not fair!

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:39:59 GMT, David Ryan
wrote:

"M. Wehrmann" wrote:

Two actions haven't been fair:

1) Of course Jan did wait for Lance after the crash.
Jan often looked back, he had to change his rhythm.
Unfair was Lance' attack immediately(!) when he had arrived Jan.
Why Lance didn't wait some seconds?


Without fan interference Lance would have been way ahead anyway.
It looked like Ullrich was aware he was back.
And Ullrich had a respite to recover.

Jan did not react in that moment - he just coudn't believe it ...


Ullrich never reacts.


When Lance crashed, Ullrich was barely 2 meters behind him.

2) Unfair was Mayo: no work, 2nd place.
Mayo has stolen Ullrich 4 sec (= bonus time).
Maybe the decisive seconds in this TdF.

Let's hope Armstrong doesn't need that 4 sec. in the TT.

Manuel


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Old July 21st 03, 05:13 PM
Ed Hill
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Default Not fair!

M. Wehrmann wrote:
Two actions haven't been fair:

1) Of course Jan did wait for Lance after the crash.
Jan often looked back, he had to change his rhythm.
Unfair was Lance' attack immediately(!) when he had arrived Jan.
Why Lance didn't wait some seconds?
Jan did not react in that moment - he just coudn't believe it ...

2) Unfair was Mayo: no work, 2nd place.
Mayo has stolen Ullrich 4 sec (= bonus time).
Maybe the decisive seconds in this TdF.

Let's hope Armstrong doesn't need that 4 sec. in the TT.

Manuel


I agree. Jan did most of the pulling today up the last two cols. Mayo
had one or two feeble attacks and then sucked Ullich's wheel before
passing him at the line. Mayo wanted a high finish for the locals, but
he got it the cheap way. He ought to lose time for being a scumbag. If
those 4 secs are decisive, today's finish will indeed look bad on Mayo.

Ed


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Old July 21st 03, 05:27 PM
Gerrit Stolte
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Default Not fair!

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 12:13:24 -0400, Ed Hill
wrote:

M. Wehrmann wrote:
Two actions haven't been fair:

1) Of course Jan did wait for Lance after the crash.
Jan often looked back, he had to change his rhythm.
Unfair was Lance' attack immediately(!) when he had arrived Jan.
Why Lance didn't wait some seconds?
Jan did not react in that moment - he just coudn't believe it ...

2) Unfair was Mayo: no work, 2nd place.
Mayo has stolen Ullrich 4 sec (= bonus time).
Maybe the decisive seconds in this TdF.

Let's hope Armstrong doesn't need that 4 sec. in the TT.

Manuel


I agree. Jan did most of the pulling today up the last two cols. Mayo
had one or two feeble attacks and then sucked Ullich's wheel before
passing him at the line. Mayo wanted a high finish for the locals, but
he got it the cheap way. He ought to lose time for being a scumbag. If
those 4 secs are decisive, today's finish will indeed look bad on Mayo.


He'll pay for it on Saturday, when Ullrich will give him the finger
halfway through the ITT.

Gerrit

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Old July 21st 03, 05:34 PM
David Ryan
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Default Not fair!

Ed Hill wrote:

M. Wehrmann wrote:
Two actions haven't been fair:

1) Of course Jan did wait for Lance after the crash.
Jan often looked back, he had to change his rhythm.
Unfair was Lance' attack immediately(!) when he had arrived Jan.
Why Lance didn't wait some seconds?
Jan did not react in that moment - he just coudn't believe it ...

2) Unfair was Mayo: no work, 2nd place.
Mayo has stolen Ullrich 4 sec (= bonus time).
Maybe the decisive seconds in this TdF.

Let's hope Armstrong doesn't need that 4 sec. in the TT.

Manuel


I agree. Jan did most of the pulling today up the last two cols. Mayo
had one or two feeble attacks and then sucked Ullich's wheel before
passing him at the line. Mayo wanted a high finish for the locals, but
he got it the cheap way. He ought to lose time for being a scumbag. If
those 4 secs are decisive, today's finish will indeed look bad on Mayo.

Ed


I think the RBR judgement is decisively in favor of the Mayo nays.
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Old July 21st 03, 05:50 PM
Robert Chambers
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Default Not fair!

You're completely full of crap! Well after Lance was back with the group
MAYO launched an attack. Lance merely responded, then put the hammer down.


"M. Wehrmann" wrote in message
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Two actions haven't been fair:

1) Of course Jan did wait for Lance after the crash.
Jan often looked back, he had to change his rhythm.
Unfair was Lance' attack immediately(!) when he had arrived Jan.
Why Lance didn't wait some seconds?
Jan did not react in that moment - he just coudn't believe it ...

2) Unfair was Mayo: no work, 2nd place.
Mayo has stolen Ullrich 4 sec (= bonus time).
Maybe the decisive seconds in this TdF.

Let's hope Armstrong doesn't need that 4 sec. in the TT.

Manuel




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Old July 21st 03, 08:59 PM
Ed-D
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Default Not fair!

"M. Wehrmann" wrote in message
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Two actions haven't been fair:

1) Of course Jan did wait for Lance after the crash.
Jan often looked back, he had to change his rhythm.
Unfair was Lance' attack immediately(!) when he had arrived Jan.
Why Lance didn't wait some seconds?
Jan did not react in that moment - he just coudn't believe it ...


I thought the same thing at first, but remember it was that a-hole Mayo who
attacked first. Lance went with him and then by him.

2) Unfair was Mayo: no work, 2nd place.
Mayo has stolen Ullrich 4 sec (= bonus time).
Maybe the decisive seconds in this TdF.


Even if they aren't the decisive seconds, there is no excuse for Mayo's
behavior in this stage.

Let's hope Armstrong doesn't need that 4 sec. in the TT.

Manuel



 




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