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Old February 27th 10, 07:16 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 15:09:48 -0600, Bob Schwartz
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Brad Anders wrote:
On Feb 26, 7:40 am, Bob Schwartz
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I swear, the Olympics are run by retards.


Bob, you can't say that word any more.

Brad "PC Cop" Anders


The discourse here is easier to take if you resort to
doping. Ask Curtis about the bourbon-based protocol.

Bob Schwartz


Besides,one of the nation's largest advocacy and (separately) largest
non-profit support organization for those less developed mentally uses
'retarded citizens' as part of their names.

Kind of like complaining, as some do, that using Indian instead of
Native American is no longer PC. You can take your complaint to the
Bureau of Indian Affairs on that one - the sinecure for politically
connected Indians.

Curtis L. Russell
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Old February 27th 10, 07:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Fri, 26 Feb 2010 22:32:53 -0800, Michael Press
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Hard to figure why calling somebody a retard is a
hanging offense. Ever think about the word? It is a
euphemism. Those kids are not retarded. They ain't
never catching up. You are doing them a favor with
retard. They are what is left after you make a pinochle
deck. But in these sensitive times simply skip over
`retard' and go for `feeble minded', or `brain damaged'
or `simpleton.' Or not. I ignore it mostly, except
sometimes. So, is there a safe word?


Mental retardation is a diagnosis in many - probably most, but I don't
know - states in the U.S., so it can't get too non-PC. At one time
there evidently was a carefully calibrated system that used idiot,
mentally retarded, and a couple of other terms to indicate what level
of mental handicap the person had, but that was replaced by a
numbering system, either 4 (generally) or 5, also used for physical
handicap. A 4 by 4 would be a severely handicapped patient confined to
a wheelchair and unable to conduct basic body functions on their own
or any real level of communication - in our case, it was usually
severe stroke patients.

A level one, mental handicap only, probably only shows up when they
have odd or irregular behavior that brings them into the system.

So when you hear people that work in the system, you don't hear
references to idiot or retarded (at least, I never did), because they
are inexact. You hear references to 2 by 2's or 4 by 3's, because
generally, mentally handicapped end up physically handicapped, if by
excess weight if no other. And the reference is clear within most
contexts without further elaboration, unless you're talking about
physicians or social workers discussing treatment plans.

The numbers also lead directly to funding levels from the state and
feds, which I guess is pretty obvious.

The terms mentally handicapped or mentally retarded are used extremely
coommonly to refer to the population in general (most legislation in
the state of Maryland uses one of those two terms). It is non- PC only
when used directly to the person, which serves no useful purpose other
than to insult a level 1 or 2 handicapped individual. Since they are
often fully developed and have possibly lower levels for avoiding
violence as a solution, it strikes me as a poor choice of words for
several reasons.

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Old February 27th 10, 10:56 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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Kurgan. presented by Gringioni.

ps. p0wn the podium!!


What's that? I can't hear you over ALL THIS GOLD!




OWN THE PODIUM!!!!!!!!!!!!


Still can't hear you. But the hockey game tomorrow is a toss-up.

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Old February 28th 10, 04:39 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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"Donald Munro" wrote in message
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Bob Schwartz wrote:
I swear, the Olympics are run by retards.


K. Fred Gauss wrote:
Also, watched by retards.


Tom Kunich wrote:
It didn't used to be that way.


I am resisting temptation; where are my brownie points ?


check your undies !


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Old February 28th 10, 04:44 AM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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On Feb 26, 10:19*pm, "
wrote:
On Feb 26, 7:40*am, Bob Schwartz
wrote:

Before they get their undies in a twist over hockey
players smoking and drinking (who would ever imagine!)
they should thank their lucky stars that no one has
gotten popped yet for dope. This is especially relevant
given the role of the Olympics as the primary driver
in sports doping.


And especially, especially relevant given the role of
steroids in hockey player development.


I swear, the Olympics are run by retards.


Bob Schwartz


Dumbass,

IOC investigation = taking the problem with utmost
seriousness until all the hand-wringers and sports
columnists forget about it, then sweeping it under the
rug where it belongs. *Just like doping. *In terms of
preserving the product before everything else, the IOC
makes the UCI look like, well, amateurs.


Here's another perspective. Probably not anything
you don't already know

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...022703315.html

but a good point that hand-wringing about
Canadian party animals is a way of dodging
responsibility for any actual important issues
(and I mean real important issues, not doping).

Ben
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Old February 28th 10, 04:33 PM posted to rec.bicycles.racing
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http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...022703315.html

That's a thoughtful and interesting article. Thanks!
 




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