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What about cyclists like us?
Why are we wasting time on the death of one celebrity racing cyclist,
travelling at a speed most of us will never achieve, on roads only Jobst and Lou have ever seen? There is plenty of data about cyclists just like us to talk about: • Most fatal crashes (74%) involved a head injury. • Nearly all bicyclists who died (97%) were not wearing a helmet. • Helmet use was only 3% in fatal crashes, but 13% in non-fatal crashes Source: http://www.nyc.gov/html/doh/download...ike-report.pdf That looks to me like helmets saved 33 lives of cyclists like us riding at speeds like ours on urban streets of a type familiar to most of us. Andre Jute Eventually the message will register On Sep 1, 5:58*pm, Phil W Lee wrote: Dan O considered Tue, 31 Aug 2010 22:52:21 -0700 (PDT) the perfect time to write: On Aug 31, 10:14 pm, Frank Krygowski wrote: On Aug 31, 6:46 pm, Dan O wrote: I googled "Casartelli" looking for examples of the "nonsense claims" you mention. *At Wikipedia I found: "Many have claimed if Casartelli had been wearing a modern bicycle helmet his life might have been saved." Which is nonsense. *The collision was at a speed no bike helmet could handle. *Surely you don't think these things are good for 45mph into solid concrete, do you?? My dictionary says the word "might" is "used to indicate a possibility or probability that is weaker than may: *We might discover a pot of gold at the end of the rainbow" What do you mean "handle", anyway? *All we know is that hitting his head without a helmet killed him. *It is entirely possible that a helmet could have attenuated and/or deflected and/or otherwise altered the forces enough to change the outcome. *A longshot? *Probably - *almost* certainly - but still possible. Only if you seriously believe that helmets have some kind of magic fairy dust used in their manufacture. ... and: "Disteldorf added that had Casartelli been wearing a hard helmet 'some injuries could have been avoided'." "Some injuries"? *I don't doubt the truth of that, but I very much doubt its practicality. *No matter what minor injuries it may have prevented, it would certainly not prevent his death. "Minor injuries"? *Where did you get that? The only injuries that a cycle helmet could have prevented or mitigated in that kind of incident would be the minor ones, not the ones which killed him. "Certainly"? *Others are saying "might" and could". *You are the only one saying "would". The next hit,http://www.bhsi.org/timesart.htm, *offered: "Fabio Casartelli may not have died if he had been wearing a helmet." I know this kind of stuff makes *you* see red, but "nonsense"? *I'm not finding anyone saying "a certified-for-14-mph helmet would have saved him". Can you please cite some of the "nonsense claims" to which you refer? Dan, there's no need for me to cite those nonsense claims. *You've just done that. You said, "There were - and still are - claims that a certified-for-14- mph helmet would have saved him." Cite, please, or retract. What else would a "modern bicycle helmet" be but one certified to modern standards? Because of your faith, you don't recognize the nonsense - but it's still nonsense. *In a direct hit between a concrete pillar and a person's head at over 45 mph, a certified-for-14-mph helmet is simply not going to make a difference! *Anybody believing it will is either a helmet fundamentalist, or a dishonest helmet promoter. *Or both. Talk about a fundamentalist. There's nothing wrong with a desire for accuracy. I'm far more concerned that fantasists seem to wish for everyone else to share in their fantasies. |
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