Habanero shows up curved stays

On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 9:23:10 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-04-17 09:09, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 11:15:25 AM UTC-4, Andrew Chaplin
wrote:
Joerg wrote in
:

http://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/su...ke-pads-073745


0p.html#srp

Fairly caught, Sir; those would have popped up for my search if
Crappy Tire were more consistent in their cataloguing.


They sell both rim brake pads and disc brake pads. Even rotors. We don't
have that kind of store in our area. Ours are strictly auto like this one:

https://www.lesschwab.com/

If you key in bicycle all you get is "There is no result for your
search. Please try again with other terms".


Mind you, if you're riding a Supercycle, you're taking your life in
your hands. -- Andrew Chaplin SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO
MARTINO (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to get
"yourfinger." out.)

All I know is that if I go into a department store around here that
sells bikes, then i can usually find brake shoes for
cantilever,V-brakes and or road bike brake shoes. I VERY SELDOM see
disc brake pads in a department store.Joerg lives in a strange area
where EVERYTHING is contrary to whatthe vast majority of bicyclists
experience anywhere else.


Just travel to Placerville and walk into the Walmart, then see for
yourself. Yes, that is a department store. Yes, they sell lots of
bicycles. No, they did not have any brake pads.

Which is odd. The Folsom and Rocklin Walmarts have v-brake pads in stock according to the Walmart website. Luckily, Placerville has a bike shop. http://placervillebike.com/

I think the point is that you're not going to find BB-7, Juicy, Shimano road hydraulic brake pads in the the "middle of nowhere" or in a non-bike store, which is a fair statement. In contrast, you can find v-brake pads in a lot of retail junk shops from chain sporting goods to Walmarts. Our local supermarket chain carries rim brake pads. https://www.fredmeyer.com/searching?...roducts&page=1

You are far more likely to find a v-brake pad in a non-bike store than a disc brake pad. So what does that mean? Take some disc brake pads on your next long tour, or just pay attention to pad wear so you can pick up a set when you're passing through civilization.

And, BTW, you're not going to find a 9-11sp chain in the middle of nowhere. The typical junk store chain is a 7-8sp. http://tinyurl.com/m8do8kg So take a spare snap link.

-- Jay Beattie

On 2017-04-17 10:01, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 9:23:10 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-04-17 09:09, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 11:15:25 AM UTC-4, Andrew Chaplin
wrote:

[...]


Mind you, if you're riding a Supercycle, you're taking your
life in your hands. -- Andrew Chaplin SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT
SANCTO MARTINO (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to
get "yourfinger." out.)

All I know is that if I go into a department store around here
that sells bikes, then i can usually find brake shoes for
cantilever,V-brakes and or road bike brake shoes. I VERY SELDOM
see disc brake pads in a department store.Joerg lives in a
strange area where EVERYTHING is contrary to whatthe vast
majority of bicyclists experience anywhere else.


Just travel to Placerville and walk into the Walmart, then see for
yourself. Yes, that is a department store. Yes, they sell lots of
bicycles. No, they did not have any brake pads.

Which is odd. The Folsom and Rocklin Walmarts have v-brake pads in
stock according to the Walmart website. Luckily, Placerville has a
bike shop. http://placervillebike.com/

I think the point is that you're not going to find BB-7, Juicy,
Shimano road hydraulic brake pads in the the "middle of nowhere" or
in a non-bike store, which is a fair statement. In contrast, you can
find v-brake pads in a lot of retail junk shops from chain sporting
goods to Walmarts. Our local supermarket chain carries rim brake
pads.
https://www.fredmeyer.com/searching?...roducts&page=1

You are far more likely to find a v-brake pad in a non-bike store
than a disc brake pad. So what does that mean? Take some disc brake
pads on your next long tour, or just pay attention to pad wear so you
can pick up a set when you're passing through civilization.

And, BTW, you're not going to find a 9-11sp chain in the middle of
nowhere. The typical junk store chain is a 7-8sp.
http://tinyurl.com/m8do8kg So take a spare snap link.


I am not concerned about brake pads wearing out because I check them
before each ride. Got a chain link in the tool kit as well and (so far)
I haven't had problems whacking a pretzeled chain apart to install it.
More of a concern are the tires. More than once did I have to walk home
because of an unfixable kablouie. The kind where the resulting gaping
hole is too large to stuff.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 1:28:23 AM UTC-7, John B Slocomb wrote:
On Sun, 16 Apr 2017 12:42:48 -0700, Joerg
wrote:

On 2017-04-16 12:33, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Saturday, April 15, 2017 at 11:33:43 AM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
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Been to a department store lately? You'd be hard pressed to find rim
brake shoes in there.
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Up here I can go into any department store and buy brake pads for cantilever, road or V-brakes.


During my last visit to the Walmart in Placerville about two month ago I
looked and saw ... nada, zip, zilch. Our Sears doesn't even carry
bicycle parts anymore.

Funny. Monday is my wife's "shopping day" and we usually visit several
very large stores. The first place that sells a very broad range of
stuff from fresh chicken to PVC plumbing pipe had bicycle rim brake
pads. The second place was Tesco Lotus (ask a Brit about Tesco) and
they had rim brake pads and finally a sort of copy-cat of Tesco named
"Big C" and Lo! They had brake pads also. By the way, the first place
had your cheap Thai made tires for 129 baht each, about $3.76 at
today's exchange rate.

You 'mericans must have very limited shopping facilities.

John, you ain't seen nothing yet. After Moonbeam Brown is done with doubling the gas tax (after he SAID he's only going to use about half of it to repair the roads) when the last two times he increased the tax to repair the roads he didn't spend one red cent doing so, the suckers are all lining up and saying "Yeah, we need the roads repaired."

On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 10:56:25 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-04-17 10:01, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 9:23:10 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-04-17 09:09, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 11:15:25 AM UTC-4, Andrew Chaplin
wrote:

[...]


Mind you, if you're riding a Supercycle, you're taking your
life in your hands. -- Andrew Chaplin SIT MIHI GLADIUS SICUT
SANCTO MARTINO (If you're going to e-mail me, you'll have to
get "yourfinger." out.)

All I know is that if I go into a department store around here
that sells bikes, then i can usually find brake shoes for
cantilever,V-brakes and or road bike brake shoes. I VERY SELDOM
see disc brake pads in a department store.Joerg lives in a
strange area where EVERYTHING is contrary to whatthe vast
majority of bicyclists experience anywhere else.


Just travel to Placerville and walk into the Walmart, then see for
yourself. Yes, that is a department store. Yes, they sell lots of
bicycles. No, they did not have any brake pads.

Which is odd. The Folsom and Rocklin Walmarts have v-brake pads in
stock according to the Walmart website. Luckily, Placerville has a
bike shop. http://placervillebike.com/

I think the point is that you're not going to find BB-7, Juicy,
Shimano road hydraulic brake pads in the the "middle of nowhere" or
in a non-bike store, which is a fair statement. In contrast, you can
find v-brake pads in a lot of retail junk shops from chain sporting
goods to Walmarts. Our local supermarket chain carries rim brake
pads.
https://www.fredmeyer.com/searching?...roducts&page=1

You are far more likely to find a v-brake pad in a non-bike store
than a disc brake pad. So what does that mean? Take some disc brake
pads on your next long tour, or just pay attention to pad wear so you
can pick up a set when you're passing through civilization.

And, BTW, you're not going to find a 9-11sp chain in the middle of
nowhere. The typical junk store chain is a 7-8sp.
http://tinyurl.com/m8do8kg So take a spare snap link.


I am not concerned about brake pads wearing out because I check them
before each ride. Got a chain link in the tool kit as well and (so far)
I haven't had problems whacking a pretzeled chain apart to install it.
More of a concern are the tires. More than once did I have to walk home
because of an unfixable kablouie. The kind where the resulting gaping
hole is too large to stuff.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Can I take a few pot shots at you too since everyone else thinks it's open day at the range? Hope that it isn't bothering you.

On 2017-04-17 10:59, wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 10:56:25 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-04-17 10:01, jbeattie wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 9:23:10 AM UTC-7, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-04-17 09:09, Sir Ridesalot wrote:
On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 11:15:25 AM UTC-4, Andrew
Chaplin wrote:

[...]


Mind you, if you're riding a Supercycle, you're taking
your life in your hands. -- Andrew Chaplin SIT MIHI
GLADIUS SICUT SANCTO MARTINO (If you're going to e-mail me,
you'll have to get "yourfinger." out.)

All I know is that if I go into a department store around
here that sells bikes, then i can usually find brake shoes
for cantilever,V-brakes and or road bike brake shoes. I VERY
SELDOM see disc brake pads in a department store.Joerg lives
in a strange area where EVERYTHING is contrary to whatthe
vast majority of bicyclists experience anywhere else.


Just travel to Placerville and walk into the Walmart, then see
for yourself. Yes, that is a department store. Yes, they sell
lots of bicycles. No, they did not have any brake pads.

Which is odd. The Folsom and Rocklin Walmarts have v-brake pads
in stock according to the Walmart website. Luckily, Placerville
has a bike shop. http://placervillebike.com/

I think the point is that you're not going to find BB-7, Juicy,
Shimano road hydraulic brake pads in the the "middle of nowhere"
or in a non-bike store, which is a fair statement. In contrast,
you can find v-brake pads in a lot of retail junk shops from
chain sporting goods to Walmarts. Our local supermarket chain
carries rim brake pads.
https://www.fredmeyer.com/searching?...roducts&page=1



You are far more likely to find a v-brake pad in a non-bike store
than a disc brake pad. So what does that mean? Take some disc
brake pads on your next long tour, or just pay attention to pad
wear so you can pick up a set when you're passing through
civilization.

And, BTW, you're not going to find a 9-11sp chain in the middle
of nowhere. The typical junk store chain is a 7-8sp.
http://tinyurl.com/m8do8kg So take a spare snap link.


I am not concerned about brake pads wearing out because I check
them before each ride. Got a chain link in the tool kit as well and
(so far) I haven't had problems whacking a pretzeled chain apart to
install it. More of a concern are the tires. More than once did I
have to walk home because of an unfixable kablouie. The kind where
the resulting gaping hole is too large to stuff.

-- Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

Can I take a few pot shots at you too since everyone else thinks it's
open day at the range? Hope that it isn't bothering you.


Yes, you are welcome to :-)

Regarding 7-8 speed chains I currently have a Sachs-Sedis on the road
bike. The kind they used to have in department stores. Got it from
someone who didn't need it anymore, NOS, 10 years old, all of six bucks
(he didn't want anything but that was the price tag on the carton). It
is now approaching 3k miles and still under 0.5% stretch. Can't believe
it. Even the classy Wippermann chains I used before that were almost
finished by that time. Try that with "modern" 10 speed chains.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On 4/16/2017 10:52 AM, Joerg wrote:
Yet only the Netherlands and Denmark kept a high
cycling mode share and some cities there even explanded on it. They had
cars just like the Germans but left them parked a lot. Because they
built out the bike infrastructure.

What do you say about places like Stevenage and Milton Keynes that built
the bike infrastructure but never saw any significant use of bikes?


--
- Frank Krygowski

On 4/17/2017 9:23 AM, Joerg wrote:

They sell both rim brake pads and disc brake pads. Even rotors. We don't
have that kind of store in our area. Ours are strictly auto like this one:

In the U.S., the equivalent of Canadian Tire was Western Auto. They sold
bicycles and bicycle parts. That product line ended ages ago.

Long's drug store, long since purchased and destroyed by CVS, and
Payless drug store, long since purchased and destroyed by Riteaid, both
had a good selection of bicycle stuff. Long's even sold some Park tools.

J.C. Penney, which sold the first mass produced disc brake bicycle in
the U.S., and Sears, which sold the first mass produced hydraulic brake
bicycle in the U.S. have pretty much abandoned sporting goods.

Target has a tiny selection of bicycle stuff. Walmart does much better,
but nothing as high end as any disc brake pads.

Dick's Sporting Goods, has a decent selection of bicycle parts and
accessories, but no disc pads on their web site. However they do operate
a bicycle repair shop which would likely sell them.

I'm wondering what Freddie's has in terms of bicycle stuff. Jay could
answer that. They seem to have a very big sporting goods selection.

On 4/17/2017 10:35 AM, Joerg wrote:
On 2017-04-17 01:28, John B Slocomb wrote:

Funny. Monday is my wife's "shopping day" and we usually visit several
very large stores. The first place that sells a very broad range of
stuff from fresh chicken to PVC plumbing pipe had bicycle rim brake
pads. The second place was Tesco Lotus (ask a Brit about Tesco) and
they had rim brake pads and finally a sort of copy-cat of Tesco named
"Big C" and Lo! They had brake pads also. By the way, the first place
had your cheap Thai made tires for 129 baht each, about $3.76 at
today's exchange rate.


Ah, in Thailand. That's a very different place compared to here.

Copenhagen and Amsterdam are also very different places compared to
here. Yet you claim their bike facilities are what we need, and you
pretend the other differences (density, auto-related costs, mass transit
availability, etc. etc.) are unimportant.

A place
where people still service their own vehicles like they did here in the
good old days. I suspect the key reason why you can hardly find brake
pads in stores other than (some) bike shops is that most people in the
US would buy a new $199 bicycle at the department store and ride it
maybe five miles, realize that now all sorts of muscles ache, and then
it sits in the garage until some yard sale 10 years later. Servicing
such a bike? Not gonna happen.

Yet you like to pretend that if a bike path is built nearby, those same
people will stop using their car.


--
- Frank Krygowski

On 2017-04-17 11:41, Frank Krygowski wrote:
On 4/16/2017 10:52 AM, Joerg wrote:
Yet only the Netherlands and Denmark kept a high cycling mode share
and some cities there even explanded on it. They had cars just like
the Germans but left them parked a lot. Because they built out the
bike infrastructure.

What do you say about places like Stevenage and Milton Keynes that built
the bike infrastructure but never saw any significant use of bikes?


That has been explained ad nauseam in various articles such as this one:

https://aseasyasridingabike.wordpres...milton-keynes/

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

On Monday, April 17, 2017 at 1:56:25 PM UTC-4, Joerg wrote:
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I am not concerned about brake pads wearing out because I check them
before each ride. Got a chain link in the tool kit as well and (so far)
I haven't had problems whacking a pretzeled chain apart to install it.
More of a concern are the tires. More than once did I have to walk home
because of an unfixable kablouie. The kind where the resulting gaping
hole is too large to stuff.

--
Regards, Joerg

http://www.analogconsultants.com/

INCONCEIVABLE! That a guy who has so much trouble with stuff breaking (or who meets others with broken stuff) and carries so much stuff will not bother to cary a small lightweight chain tool that will do a PROPER job of disengaging chain links without damaging them or the adjacent ones. No, he'd much rather pound the thing apart with a not so handy rock whilst keeping a sharp outlook for mountain lions or at night stealth motor bikes.

Cheers