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Being stopped by a Trooper...
Quick question on procedure. If I'm stopped riding along not having
done anything, bike legal, low traffic road do I have the same right as a car driver to signal to tell the cop I'm rolling to the nearby service station before dismounting? Also, why would a police car passing me on a narrow road, low traffic, plenty of visibility, no other traffic coming and not automatically slow down to the speed limit a little before getting to me? If he had a blow out, or the wheel slipped, or someone suddenly came up and lurched at a side street, I'd be toast at 40mph (limit was 25). Now almost -everyone- speeds there, b/c it's -right- off the Interstate (around two bends, a past a gas station and a few houses, and you still have that skewed perception of driving 65. But, seriously, I'd expect more out of a professional driver. |
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Being stopped by a Trooper...
On 2007-09-11, Biker52 wrote:
Quick question on procedure. If I'm stopped riding along not having done anything, bike legal, low traffic road do I have the same right as a car driver to signal to tell the cop I'm rolling to the nearby service station before dismounting? Exactly what signal would that be for a car driver? The never-ending blinker? IME, that ****es them off, so I just pull over immediately (or within 1.4 mile or so). Channeling Hunter S Thompson [1] is not wise, in general. In your case, point to where you intend to go. Turn your head and make eye contact, if possible. So, why did he pull you over, anyway? Also, why would a police car passing me on a narrow road, low traffic, plenty of visibility, no other traffic coming and not automatically slow down to the speed limit a little before getting to me? Ignorance. Just keep your mouth shut when dealing with the trooper, and then write a nice letter to the opinion page of your local newspaper. You could try his supervising officer, but if the whole department is like this guy, that won't do you any good. But, seriously, I'd expect more out of a professional driver. He's a professional cop, not a professional driver. [1] "Make the ******* chase you; he will follow". -- __o Kristian Zoerhoff _'\(,_ (_)/ (_) |
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Being stopped by a Trooper...
On Sep 11, 4:50 pm, Biker52 wrote:
Quick question on procedure. If I'm stopped riding along not having done anything, bike legal, low traffic road do I have the same right as a car driver to signal to tell the cop I'm rolling to the nearby service station before dismounting? Also, why would a police car passing me on a narrow road, low traffic, plenty of visibility, no other traffic coming and not automatically slow down to the speed limit a little before getting to me? If he had a blow out, or the wheel slipped, or someone suddenly came up and lurched at a side street, I'd be toast at 40mph (limit was 25). Now almost -everyone- speeds there, b/c it's -right- off the Interstate (around two bends, a past a gas station and a few houses, and you still have that skewed perception of driving 65. But, seriously, I'd expect more out of a professional driver. When I've been stopped by troopers and have driven a little farther to get to a safer spot to pull over, they've never had a problem with it. As long as you slow down and let them know you do intend to pull over, it usually isn't a problem. Smokey |
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Being stopped by a Trooper...
On Sep 11, 10:50 pm, Biker52 wrote:
Quick question on procedure. If I'm stopped riding along not having done anything, bike legal, low traffic road do I have the same right as a car driver to signal to tell the cop I'm rolling to the nearby service station before dismounting? Also, why would a police car passing me on a narrow road, low traffic, plenty of visibility, no other traffic coming and not automatically slow down to the speed limit a little before getting to me? If he had a blow out, or the wheel slipped, or someone suddenly came up and lurched at a side street, I'd be toast at 40mph (limit was 25). Now almost -everyone- speeds there, b/c it's -right- off the Interstate (around two bends, a past a gas station and a few houses, and you still have that skewed perception of driving 65. But, seriously, I'd expect more out of a professional driver. I was stopped by two cops one night last week for riding with no lights after I went through two red lights and and given a telling off wich was very nice of them as I'd drank about four or five pints of beer and could hve been in real trouble but before they drove off, hopefully to deal with real crime, they told me that for the last six years here in Britain, it has been illegal to ride a bycicle without one of those silly looking plastic helmets that only complete fannies actually wear. This is very sad. It's like taking nail clippers off you at the airport in case you try to hijack the plane but you can go right on through with a glass bottle of vodka that you bought in duty free! It's just another waqy to make you do as you are told. I'm afraid the ******s are inheriting the earth and Eric the red is glad that he's a long time dead. I'm afraid the numbers up for us real men.When the feminists see us riding pushbikes looking like dorks they will know, they've finnaly got us by the balls. |
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Being stopped by a Trooper...
"Campsie" wrote: (clip) you can go right on through with a glass bottle of vodka that you bought in duty free! (clip) ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If it will make you feel any better, that isn't allowed in the US (and I would be surprised if it is allowed where you live), ever since it was learned that terrorists can make explosives out of common liquids. I believe, also, that the restriction on nail clippers has been eased. |
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Being stopped by a Trooper...
"Biker52" wrote: (clip) do I have the same right as a car driver to signal to tell the cop I'm rolling to the nearby service station before dismounting? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yes. Neither of you has that *right,* although the cop has the discression and requirement to allow you to do what is reasonable and safe. It's not written down anywhere, as far as I know--it's just the way things work. But, after a few miles of following you with his red light on, he may decide that things have gone far enough. Oh, and: "car driver rolling to rolling to the nearby service station before dismounting?" I would like to see this hypothetical driver dismount. I guess if he was driving a 1901 Hupmobile..... |
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Being stopped by a Trooper...
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Kristian M Zoerhoff wrote: On 2007-09-11, Biker52 wrote: Quick question on procedure. If I'm stopped riding along not having done anything, bike legal, low traffic road do I have the same right as a car driver to signal to tell the cop I'm rolling to the nearby service station before dismounting? Exactly what signal would that be for a car driver? The never-ending blinker? IME, that ****es them off, so I just pull over immediately (or within 1.4 mile or so). Channeling Hunter S Thompson [1] is not wise, in general. The standard way is to reduce speed slightly and wave your right hand across the rear-view mirror area. This is a pretty visible signal acknowledging the presence of the officer. But even assuming you meant 1/4 mile or so, I have to wonder under what circumstances anyone would be likely to drive further than that? Maybe on a bridge or in a tunnel, but that would be completely acceptable to any peace officer (unless of course they were pulling you over because they suspected you of attempted regicide or something). In your case, point to where you intend to go. Turn your head and make eye contact, if possible. So, why did he pull you over, anyway? -- Ryan Cousineau http://www.wiredcola.com/ "I don't want kids who are thinking about going into mathematics to think that they have to take drugs to succeed." -Paul Erdos |
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Being stopped by a Trooper...
"Campsie" wrote in message ups.com... On Sep 11, 10:50 pm, Biker52 wrote: Quick question on procedure. If I'm stopped riding along not having done anything, bike legal, low traffic road do I have the same right as a car driver to signal to tell the cop I'm rolling to the nearby service station before dismounting? Also, why would a police car passing me on a narrow road, low traffic, plenty of visibility, no other traffic coming and not automatically slow down to the speed limit a little before getting to me? If he had a blow out, or the wheel slipped, or someone suddenly came up and lurched at a side street, I'd be toast at 40mph (limit was 25). Now almost -everyone- speeds there, b/c it's -right- off the Interstate (around two bends, a past a gas station and a few houses, and you still have that skewed perception of driving 65. But, seriously, I'd expect more out of a professional driver. I was stopped by two cops one night last week for riding with no lights after I went through two red lights and and given a telling off wich was very nice of them as I'd drank about four or five pints of beer and could hve been in real trouble but before they drove off, hopefully to deal with real crime, they told me that for the last six years here in Britain, it has been illegal to ride a bycicle without one of those silly looking plastic helmets that only complete fannies actually wear. This is very sad. It's like taking nail clippers off you at the airport in case you try to hijack the plane but you can go right on through with a glass bottle of vodka that you bought in duty free! It's just another waqy to make you do as you are told. I'm afraid the ******s are inheriting the earth and Eric the red is glad that he's a long time dead. I'm afraid the numbers up for us real men.When the feminists see us riding pushbikes looking like dorks they will know, they've finnaly got us by the balls. Stop worrying and have another pint for me. |
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Being stopped by a Trooper...
"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message ... "Biker52" wrote: (clip) do I have the same right as a car driver to signal to tell the cop I'm rolling to the nearby service station before dismounting? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yes. Neither of you has that *right,* although the cop has the discression and requirement to allow you to do what is reasonable and safe. It's not written down anywhere, as far as I know--it's just the way things work. But, after a few miles of following you with his red light on, he may decide that things have gone far enough. Oh, and: "car driver rolling to rolling to the nearby service station before dismounting?" I would like to see this hypothetical driver dismount. I guess if he was driving a 1901 Hupmobile..... What did the trooper finally end up charging you with or lecturing you on? |
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Being stopped by a Trooper...
On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:25:11 GMT, "smn" wrote:
"Leo Lichtman" wrote in message ... "Biker52" wrote: (clip) do I have the same right as a car driver to signal to tell the cop I'm rolling to the nearby service station before dismounting? ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Yes. Neither of you has that *right,* although the cop has the discression and requirement to allow you to do what is reasonable and safe. It's not written down anywhere, as far as I know--it's just the way things work. But, after a few miles of following you with his red light on, he may decide that things have gone far enough. Oh, and: "car driver rolling to rolling to the nearby service station before dismounting?" I would like to see this hypothetical driver dismount. I guess if he was driving a 1901 Hupmobile..... What did the trooper finally end up charging you with or lecturing you on? You talking to me? First time, in the park First Officer: 'do you have a horn or bell on your bike'. Me: point to obvious horn on handlebar. Second officer: 'I didn't even know it was legal to ride in the park'. Then they frisked me and found a bike tool. After that, I rode on home. Probable cause? I -think- me wearing a jacket and balaclava on a 60 degree day (windy, spring just starting, wore that all winter) Second time 'did you see a kid riding down here pulling another bike behind him'. Me: "nossir". Neither time should they have stopped me, imo. In the future I'll be carrying a picture of me and the Deputy Chief shaking hands (he's an old workout buddy) and a letter from the Chief about bikes being considered lawful traffic. Then we'll get pictures of all of us arm-in-arm, and maybe I'll get 'em to put their hats on backward for one. |
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