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On 05/12/2011 16:53, Bertie Wooster wrote:
A well thought out article. http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress...-the-pavement/ Disingenuous, rather than well thought-out (though I don't deny that some thought went into it). That writer is , of course, trying to pull the wool over the reader's eyes. This becomes very apparent in the very first paragraph when he complains about an article written by a councillor attacking footway cycling. He describes the councillor's article as "...an article that, for some reason, decided to focus entirely on the dangers of ‘selfish cyclists’ who are using pedestrianised areas in Horsham, and which simultaneously managed to ignore completely the (acknowledged) dangers of reckless driving". Of course, what he fails to mention is that that is not in any way a fault or deficiency in the attack on footway cycling. One might as well complain that articles attacking bad driving are deficient because they ignore the threat of tsunami, earthquake, nuclear war and asteroid-strike. Or just imagine a shoplifter attempting to justify himself by arguing that the person who has apprehended him is ignoring the murder rate, not to mention genocide in Rwanda or mass-murders in Syria. When he says "In this companion piece, I’d like to revisit that article, and take a closer look at why cyclists are using pavements and pedestrianised areas in Horsham", he is missing the point by an astronomical unit. It simply doesn't matter "why", any more than do the reasons proffered by drug dealers, drunk drivers or vandal spray-painters for their anti-social behaviour. The truth is that "the dangers of reckless driving" (whether acknowledged or not) are nothing to do with the self-centred antics of footway cyclists and one topic can only be connected with the other in a simplistic and unintelligent way. And that is a better characterisation of the article than calling it "well thought out". |
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On Dec 5, 4:53*pm, Bertie Wooster wrote:
A well thought out article.http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress...ling-on-the-pa... Yes,it was very well written but those 3 children in the first photo are below the age of criminal responsiblity and so they have nothing to fear anyway. -- Simon Mason |
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On 05/12/2011 16:53, Bertie Wooster wrote:
A well thought out article. http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress...-the-pavement/ Standard bicyclist ********. Ignores very real public concern, try's to divert attention by blaming motorists, them wants public money wasted on a tiny minority of idiots who use a non viable form of transport. -- Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton - Lancaster University |
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On Dec 5, 4:53*pm, Bertie Wooster wrote:
A well thought out article.http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress...ling-on-the-pa... I never cycle on those converted pavements as shown in the photo as there are so many give ways points - that is why I stick to the roads. -- Simon Mason |
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On Dec 5, 5:26*pm, JNugent wrote:
On 05/12/2011 16:53, Bertie Wooster wrote: A well thought out article. http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress...ling-on-the-pa... Disingenuous, rather than well thought-out (though I don't deny that some thought went into it). Actually, it's very well thought out, you're making the fundamental error of criticising from a driver's and pedestrian's point of view. I'm not familiar with Horsham but similar layouts are found in dozens of small towns, where the road network was redesigned in the sixties/ seventies to cater for increased volumes of motor traffic and the core streets later pedestrianised. The combination marginalises the cyclist who has to choose between a circuitous, unpleasant and possibly dangerous road, and coming into conflict with pedestrians. |
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On 07/12/2011 11:39, NorthWalesYorkie wrote:
On Dec 5, 5:26 pm, wrote: On 05/12/2011 16:53, Bertie Wooster wrote: A well thought out article. http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress...ling-on-the-pa... Disingenuous, rather than well thought-out (though I don't deny that some thought went into it). Actually, it's very well thought out, you're making the fundamental error of criticising from a driver's and pedestrian's point of view. Looking at it from the point of view of the vast majority who expect some effort to comply with the law (especially law to protect pedestrians on footways), you mean? I'm not familiar with Horsham but similar layouts are found in dozens of small towns, where the road network was redesigned in the sixties/ seventies to cater for increased volumes of motor traffic and the core streets later pedestrianised. The combination marginalises the cyclist who has to choose between a circuitous, unpleasant and possibly dangerous road, and coming into conflict with pedestrians. "Conflict with pedestrians" could mean almost anything (so it means nothing). Cycling on the footway, or the wrong way along a one-way street, is an offence, which is conflict with the law and an affront to the civilised norms of society. Be wary of admitting to uncivilised behaviour. And it's not as though you can do it inadvertently. |
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On Dec 7, 11:39*am, NorthWalesYorkie
wrote: Actually, it's very well thought out, you're making the fundamental error of criticising from a driver's and pedestrian's point of view. I'm not familiar with Horsham but similar layouts are found in dozens of small towns, where the road network was redesigned in the sixties/ seventies to cater for increased volumes of motor traffic and the core streets later pedestrianised. The combination marginalises the cyclist who has to choose between a circuitous, unpleasant and possibly dangerous road, and coming into conflict with pedestrians. I have the luxury of being able to choose from roads, cycle lanes, cycle paths from converted railway lines, cycle paths from converted pavements, bus lanes, estuary riverside, 20mph zones and I make full use of them all. -- Simon Mason |
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On Dec 7, 12:34*pm, JNugent wrote:
"Conflict with pedestrians" could mean almost anything (so it means nothing). dictionary.com can help you out here. Cycling on the footway, or the wrong way along a one-way street, is an offence, which is conflict with the law and an affront to the civilised norms of society. Which is why the needs of cyclists have to be accommodated along with those of pedestrians and motorists. Empathy with other road users isn't your strong point. |
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On 07/12/2011 12:34, JNugent wrote:
On 07/12/2011 11:39, NorthWalesYorkie wrote: On Dec 5, 5:26 pm, wrote: On 05/12/2011 16:53, Bertie Wooster wrote: A well thought out article. http://aseasyasridingabike.wordpress...ling-on-the-pa... Disingenuous, rather than well thought-out (though I don't deny that some thought went into it). Actually, it's very well thought out, you're making the fundamental error of criticising from a driver's and pedestrian's point of view. Looking at it from the point of view of the vast majority who expect some effort to comply with the law (especially law to protect pedestrians on footways), you mean? I'm not familiar with Horsham but similar layouts are found in dozens of small towns, where the road network was redesigned in the sixties/ seventies to cater for increased volumes of motor traffic and the core streets later pedestrianised. The combination marginalises the cyclist who has to choose between a circuitous, unpleasant and possibly dangerous road, and coming into conflict with pedestrians. "Conflict with pedestrians" could mean almost anything (so it means nothing). Cycling on the footway, or the wrong way along a one-way street, is an offence, which is conflict with the law and an affront to the civilised norms of society. Be wary of admitting to uncivilised behaviour. And it's not as though you can do it inadvertently. Oh please! Pavement cycling may well be illegal but is hardly serious crime, when it is done courteously and respectfully. -- Simon For personal replies, please use my reply-to address. |
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