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Old February 27th 09, 11:26 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Clive George
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"Papa Tom" wrote in message
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Just tighten both limit screws when it's in the right position.


I'm not sure what you mean by that. How do you "tighten" the limit
screws? As far as I know, all you can do is adjust them. By continuing to
turn the limit screw after the derailleur is positioned correctly, you'll
only continue to move the derailleur, right?

I'm not trying to be sarcastic here...I'm just wondering if I'm missing
something or if newer derailleurs have some kind of "set" screw that holds
it in place when the adjustment has been made.


There are two. One sets each end of the travel. Do them both up sufficiently
and the range of allowable travel will shrink to a point - do it right, and
your derailleur is now at the right point.

You might need longer screws than fitted though.


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Old February 27th 09, 11:42 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
A Muzi
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Just tighten both limit screws when it's in the right position.

Papa Tom wrote:
I'm not sure what you mean by that. How do you "tighten" the limit screws?
As far as I know, all you can do is adjust them. By continuing to turn the
limit screw after the derailleur is positioned correctly, you'll only
continue to move the derailleur, right?
I'm not trying to be sarcastic here...I'm just wondering if I'm missing
something or if newer derailleurs have some kind of "set" screw that holds
it in place when the adjustment has been made.


With no cable, the high gear screw stops the spring from moving the
derailleur to the rider's right. Tighten the screw until it is in line
with your sprocket. (get a longer m4 screw if needed)

It will stay there unless or until someone sneaks up and installs a
gear wire and shifter when you aren't looking.
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  #43  
Old February 28th 09, 01:17 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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With no cable, the high gear screw stops the spring from moving the
derailleur to the rider's right. Tighten the screw until it is in line
with your sprocket. (get a longer m4 screw if needed)

It will stay there unless or until someone sneaks up and installs a
gear wire and shifter when you aren't looking.


And you can adjust the low limit screw down to meet it, just to be
sure.

OK. I THINK I'v got it. I will mess around with it this weekend and get
back to you.

Thanks, all.


  #44  
Old March 2nd 09, 11:36 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Chalo wrote:
[...]
Fixed gearing, though, is like manual spark advance on cars-- there
were good reasons that it was superseded a long time ago, and there
are no good reasons to consider bringing it back. [...]


So why Sturmey-Archer/Sunrise does not think so, and is going to
introduce S3X Fixed Gear 3 Speed hub?
http://tinyurl.com/cf73n6


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"More experienced cyclists learn to "get light"
for a fraction of a second while going over rough
patches; newbies tend to sit harder on the saddle,
increasing the risk of pinch flats."
Sheldon Brown: 1944 - 2008
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
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Old March 2nd 09, 04:54 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Mar 2, 5:36 am, Coaster wrote:
Chalo wrote:

[...]

Fixed gearing, though, is like manual spark advance on cars-- there
were good reasons that it was superseded a long time ago, and there
are no good reasons to consider bringing it back. [...]


So why Sturmey-Archer/Sunrise does not think so, and is going to
introduce S3X Fixed Gear 3 Speed hub?http://tinyurl.com/cf73n6


Just to **** Chalo off x3!
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Old March 2nd 09, 07:05 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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Coaster wrote:

Chalo wrote:
[...]
Fixed gearing, though, is like manual spark advance on cars-- there
were good reasons that it was superseded a long time ago, and there
are no good reasons to consider bringing it back. [...]


So why Sturmey-Archer/Sunrise does not think so, and is going to
introduce S3X Fixed Gear 3 Speed hub?http://tinyurl.com/cf73n6


"...The Lorax said, 'Sir, you are crazy with greed.
There's no one on Earth who would buy that fool thneed!'
But the very next minute I proved he was wrong.
For just at that minute a chap came along,
and he thought that the thneed I had knitted was great!
He happily bought it for three ninety-eight.

"I laughed at the Lorax, 'You poor stupid guy!
You never can tell what some people will buy!'
'I repeat!' cried the Lorax, 'I speak for the trees!'
'I'm busy,' I told him, 'shut up, if you please.'"

-- Dr. Seuss
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Old March 2nd 09, 09:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
A Muzi
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Chalo wrote:
[...]
Fixed gearing, though, is like manual spark advance on cars-- there
were good reasons that it was superseded a long time ago, and there
are no good reasons to consider bringing it back. [...]


Coaster wrote:
So why Sturmey-Archer/Sunrise does not think so, and is going to
introduce S3X Fixed Gear 3 Speed hub?
http://tinyurl.com/cf73n6


Let's see if they ever actually deliver and then we can discuss it.

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Old March 2nd 09, 09:20 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Mar 2, 5:36*am, Coaster wrote:
Chalo wrote:

[...]

Fixed gearing, though, is like manual spark advance on cars-- there
were good reasons that it was superseded a long time ago, and there
are no good reasons to consider bringing it back. [...]


So why Sturmey-Archer/Sunrise does not think so, and is going to
introduce S3X Fixed Gear 3 Speed hub?http://tinyurl.com/cf73n6

--
PoZdR
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
"More experienced cyclists learn to "get light"
for a fraction of a second while going over rough
patches; newbies tend to sit harder on the saddle,
increasing the risk of pinch flats."
Sheldon Brown: 1944 - 2008
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++


Other than the non coasting fixed gear aspect, which I am not fond of
anyway, how does this contraption differ from the 3 speed internal
hubs that have been produced for about 60 years now? Has Sturmey
identified another dumber than a rock group to relieve of some of
their excess money?
  #49  
Old March 3rd 09, 12:33 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
A Muzi
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Chalo wrote:
[...]
Fixed gearing, though, is like manual spark advance on cars-- there
were good reasons that it was superseded a long time ago, and there
are no good reasons to consider bringing it back. [...]


Coaster wrote:
So why Sturmey-Archer/Sunrise does not think so, and is going to
introduce S3X Fixed Gear 3 Speed hub?http://tinyurl.com/cf73n6
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
"More experienced cyclists learn to "get light"
for a fraction of a second while going over rough
patches; newbies tend to sit harder on the saddle,
increasing the risk of pinch flats."
Sheldon Brown: 1944 - 2008
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++


wrote:
Other than the non coasting fixed gear aspect, which I am not fond of
anyway, how does this contraption differ from the 3 speed internal
hubs that have been produced for about 60 years now? Has Sturmey
identified another dumber than a rock group to relieve of some of
their excess money?


Sturmey produced the fixed three model ASC gearbox in the late
forties/early fifties. It's reputation is probably more glowing than the
actual product (one of which I happen to own) warrants.

No one knows what the sales potential for the redesigned model will be
which I suspect is why they are a few years late on delivery. (is there
demand for these features? or only the coffee shop bragging rights? what
is either worth? who knows?)

--
Andrew Muzi
www.yellowjersey.org/
Open every day since 1 April, 1971
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Old March 3rd 09, 12:47 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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When I had my bicycle recycling program, we used to come across tons of
these. The hubs always seemed to be in good shape, but the cables and
adjuster screws were always rusted beyond the salvage point. I'd usually
end up switching the hub to a comfortable gear and giving the bike away as a
single speed.

Was there something about the material used to produce the cables and
adjustment barrels that caused them to rust easily?


 




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