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The Revolution Will Not be Motorized
wrote in message oups.com... On Aug 5, 11:18 am, donquijote1954 wrote: On Aug 5, 7:12 am, "Edward Dolan" wrote: "Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" wrote in s.com... Andrew Muzi wrote: However, I stand by my statement that the free-market has failed, since there is no real free-market health care system in the US. "Johnny Sunset aka Tom Sherman" wrote Seeing as it's never really been tried, except perhaps many moons ago when health care was nowhere near as complex and expensive as it is now, Joe the Aroma WHO? wrote: I think it's hasty to make that conclusion. "Tom "Johnny Sunset" Sherman" wrote My point exactly. The FREE MARKET is failing to provide free market health care in the U.S. Edward Dolan wrote: Mr. Sherman is quite corred on this matter of health care in the US. The present system is broken and cannot be fixed except by a single payer system (the government). Such a health care system will be like the public school system. It is not socialism, but simply good common sense. It ought to be financed via higher progressive income taxes on the rich and/or a value added tax on those who like to spend money on luxuries. A total no-brainer! You have obviously not thought that through to its logical conclusion My logical conclusion was that I could not afford to get treatment for a chronic health problem, since my portion of the expenses was more than my discretionary income - and yes, I am "covered" under a[n] employer provided "health plan". I really need to start trying to get a job in Canada. More than 50% of recent personal bankruptcies in the US are from people who got sick, lost their jobs and/or health coverage or exceeded the coverage limits, and exhausted their financial assets on medical bills. Great system, eh? Mr. Sherman is a professional civil engineer with a very good job and yet he finds himself in trouble. That says it all. No nation that has gone to government paid health care has ever voted to give it up. Most of us do not want transplants or other heroic medical procedures, but we do want garden variety health care. Heath care needs to be made a right and not something you can only get if you can afford to pay for it. Where the Hell did such a crazy idea ever come from in the first place? The sooner the present system goes kaput, the better. If I did not have the VA, I would have to think about emigrating to Canada myself. I suggested this to you elsewhe Relocate the capital to Ottawa. How would we go about it? (Within the Constitution, that is?) Hey, that's where I live! We've got some very nice bike paths (sorry, "multi-user recreational pathwways" that started out as just bike paths) , about 180 kilometres worth. I use them on occasion, but there is enough of a cycling presence here that most motorists are pretty considerate. There are of course a few suburban arterial roads that I'd rather not be on if I can help it, but then again I try to avoid the suburbs in general. That said, we have a severe shortage of family doctors here. In Ottawa I think the number without a family physician is 40%. Of course there are lots of walk-in clinics, but a regular family doctor is much preferred as one gets old and starts needing those regular tests... "No nation that has gone to government paid health care has ever voted to give it up." - Ed Dolan Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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TAMING THE BEAST
Edward Dolan wrote:
I most emphatically agree with Mr. Sherman's point of view on population. Unfortunately, the human species is programmed to reproduce like crazy lemmings. Evolution has a way of doing that - programming surviving species to "reproduce". Dana |
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TAMING THE BEAST
"Dana Myers" wrote in message . .. Edward Dolan wrote: I most emphatically agree with Mr. Sherman's point of view on population. Unfortunately, the human species is programmed to reproduce like crazy lemmings. Evolution has a way of doing that - programming surviving species to "reproduce". Yes, but unfortunately the human species is no longer bound by natural checks and balances. We shall end up on a planet populated only by ourselves and various pests, like rats and cockroaches. Regards, Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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