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Zabel confesses too
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------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 2 More Ex-Telekom Riders Admit to Doping By NESHA STARCEVIC The Associated Press Thursday, May 24, 2007; 6:34 AM FRANKFURT, Germany -- Eric Zabel and Rolf Aldag, former teammates of two Tour de France winners, admitted Thursday that they took performance-enhancing drugs while riding for the Telekom team in the 1990s. Speaking at a nationally televised news conference, both said they took EPO. Both apologized and Zabel broke into tears during his confession. Aldag is now sporting director of the T-Mobile team, previously known as Telekom. Zabel, a prominent sprinter, now rides for Milram. Both were on the Telekom team when its riders won the Tour de France _ Bjarne Riis in 1996 and Jan Ullrich in 1997. Aldag said he first took the blood booster EPO before the Tour in 1995, while Zabel said he took it in 1996. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Read it at http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...052400421.html J. Spaceman |
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Video of Zabel's confession is at http://tinyurl.com/26kck6
Video of Aldag's confession is at http://tinyurl.com/2e4d2v Both require RealPlayer to view, and both are entirely in German. If you wait for a few hours I wouldn't be surprised if the entire press conference shows up on YouTube. J. Spaceman |
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On May 24, 7:04 am, Jason Spaceman
wrote: From the article: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*---- 2 More Ex-Telekom Riders Admit to Doping By NESHA STARCEVIC The Associated Press Thursday, May 24, 2007; 6:34 AM FRANKFURT, Germany -- Eric Zabel and Rolf Aldag, former teammates of two Tour de France winners, admitted Thursday that they took performance-enhancing drugs while riding for the Telekom team in the 1990s. Speaking at a nationally televised news conference, both said they took EPO. Both apologized and Zabel broke into tears during his confession. Aldag is now sporting director of the T-Mobile team, previously known as Telekom. Zabel, a prominent sprinter, now rides for Milram. Both were on the Telekom team when its riders won the Tour de France _ Bjarne Riis in 1996 and Jan Ullrich in 1997. Aldag said he first took the blood booster EPO before the Tour in 1995, while Zabel said he took it in 1996. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------*------------ Read it athttp://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/24/AR200... J. Spaceman Where's Mr. Riis? Will he out himself, or wait for others to do it to/ for him? Best, Bill Black |
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Dans le message de ,
Jason Spaceman a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré : Video of Zabel's confession is at http://tinyurl.com/26kck6 Video of Aldag's confession is at http://tinyurl.com/2e4d2v Both require RealPlayer to view, and both are entirely in German. If you wait for a few hours I wouldn't be surprised if the entire press conference shows up on YouTube. J. Spaceman Thank you. Bravo to those who open up. Telling hurts, but not telling hurts even more. Bravo, also to Gerolsteiner and Telekom, for not dismissing persons who break the code of silence, and I can only hope the same is for Milram. Our main loss is the inability to say who, among all racers who say nothing, is a truly natural supertalent. The Sport is Dead. Long live the sport. -- Bonne route ! Sandy Verneuil-sur-Seine FR |
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On May 24, 8:13 am, "Sandy" wrote:
Dans le message , Jason Spaceman a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré : Video of Zabel's confession is athttp://tinyurl.com/26kck6 Video of Aldag's confession is athttp://tinyurl.com/2e4d2v Both require RealPlayer to view, and both are entirely in German. If you wait for a few hours I wouldn't be surprised if the entire press conference shows up on YouTube. J. Spaceman Thank you. Bravo to those who open up. Telling hurts, but not telling hurts even more. Bravo, also to Gerolsteiner and Telekom, for not dismissing persons who break the code of silence, and I can only hope the same is for Milram. Our main loss is the inability to say who, among all racers who say nothing, is a truly natural supertalent. The Sport is Dead. Long live the sport. -- Bonne route ! Sandy Verneuil-sur-Seine FR Odo bolts too. From what's being said seems like they either did it or were gone. Bill C |
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Sandy wrote:
The Sport is Dead. Long live the sport. Vive le Sport!! ;-) |
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Sandy wrote:
Thank you. Bravo to those who open up. Telling hurts, but not telling hurts even more. Bravo, also to Gerolsteiner and Telekom, for not dismissing persons who break the code of silence, and I can only hope the same is for Milram. Our main loss is the inability to say who, among all racers who say nothing, is a truly natural supertalent. The Sport is Dead. Long live the sport. Why am I the only one to notice that he hasn't opened up? Are we to believe that this was all in the past, nothing in the present? People have commented in the past about how unreasonable the length of season he's been riding was. I guess aside from those few instances in the distant past he's been a supertalent. Bob Schwartz |
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On Thu, 24 May 2007 14:13:12 +0200, "Sandy" wrote:
Dans le message de , Jason Spaceman a réfléchi, et puis a déclaré : Video of Zabel's confession is at http://tinyurl.com/26kck6 Video of Aldag's confession is at http://tinyurl.com/2e4d2v Both require RealPlayer to view, and both are entirely in German. If you wait for a few hours I wouldn't be surprised if the entire press conference shows up on YouTube. J. Spaceman Thank you. Bravo to those who open up. Telling hurts, but not telling hurts even more. Some things really are better not told - didn't Greg Lemond give us an example of that. I doubt that telling is going to help. If history is anything to go by the officials will scream that this only proves the code of silence and that an example should be made - these guys will have their palmares questioned, or revoked, and everyone else will go on - happy they weren't dumb enough to talk about it. Bravo, also to Gerolsteiner and Telekom, for not dismissing persons who break the code of silence, and I can only hope the same is for Milram. Our main loss is the inability to say who, among all racers who say nothing, is a truly natural supertalent. Unless I am totally wrong, the truly natural supertalents were doping as well. Joe Papp took all that crap and was still racing in Turkey. I agree with you that the teams were right to not fire these guys, but we haven't heard from UCI, ProTour, Prudhomme, or most important Pound, Dick yet. They'll probably insist on dismissal. After all, having riders come out and expose the doping would destroy the adversarial approach to PED enforcement and without that it's impossible for Dick Pound to win. Can't win without an enemy to defeat. The Sport is Dead. Long live the sport. Well, we'll all keep riding anyway.... Ron Ron Effect pedal demo's up at http://www.soundclick.com/ronsonicpedalry |
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On May 24, 8:13 am, "Sandy" wrote:
J. Spaceman Thank you. Bravo to those who open up. dumbasses, the reaction on rbr to these admissions of guilt is nauseating. i know for all the fanboys it is gratifying when a rbr man-crush zabel gives you the truth, but it was only after the whole 90s team was exposed (or in imminent danger of beng exposed) after this jef d'hont book and subsequent confessions by the team docs. i don't see the same outpouring for the team docs, guys like lemond or the soigneur who precipitated this series of events. it goes back to the whole mentality of handling athletes with kid gloves, not holding them accountable and a willingness to forgive them no matter how much they **** up. we praise them for being honest, when there really isn't another choice, but we don't extend the same to ex- riders, docs or writers who really want a clean sport. guys like zabel and aldag made millions and enjoyed plenty of glory and they used drugs occsionally or consistenly to achieve those things. is zabel going to give back his millions and sell his apartment which houses his collection of historic bikes and live like a $40,000/yr schmoe ? i doubt it. it may have been the climate of the sport at the time, but they had a choice. |
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