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Old November 4th 08, 10:41 AM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Coaster
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Default Vintage BSA bicycle

Hi, I am serching for any info about 3 speed 'Golden Clubman' vintage
BSA Bicycle (S-A hub's dated 1962) equipped with vintage Magura brakes
(hydraulic levers, hydraulic brakes with fancy pads but works like
classic bowdens - squizing aluminium rim).
Maybe someone has catalogues, manuals, photos?

Many thanks
Coaster

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and bike weight is 1/10 as important as body weight.
If you want to go fast, ride harder and more often."
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Old November 4th 08, 12:48 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Bernhard Agthe
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Hi,

Coaster wrote:
Hi, I am serching for any info about 3 speed 'Golden Clubman' vintage
BSA Bicycle (S-A hub's dated 1962) equipped with vintage Magura brakes
(hydraulic levers, hydraulic brakes with fancy pads but works like
classic bowdens - squizing aluminium rim).


If you're interested in a 1962 bike you won't get Aluminium Rims or
Magura rim brakes.

Magura rim brakes don't have fancy pads and don't work like classic
bowdens, they have rather simple pads and work more like a hydraulic
press ;-) They are definitely not vintage - they're still being sold
with minor design changes only.

Your request seems a bit confusing to me?

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
"Frame weight is 1/4 as important as bike weight,
and bike weight is 1/10 as important as body weight.
If you want to go fast, ride harder and more often."
Grant Petersen, Rivendell Bicycle Works
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++


Agreed.

Ciao..


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Old November 4th 08, 01:04 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Michael Baldwin
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goto - www.oldroads.com

Best of Luck - Mike Baldwin

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Old November 4th 08, 01:10 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Coaster
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Bernhard Agthe wrote:

Hi,

Hi,

Coaster wrote:
Hi, I am serching for any info about 3 speed 'Golden Clubman' vintage
BSA Bicycle (S-A hub's dated 1962) equipped with vintage Magura brakes
(hydraulic levers, hydraulic brakes with fancy pads but works like
classic bowdens - squizing aluminium rim).


If you're interested in a 1962 bike you won't get Aluminium Rims or
Magura rim brakes.


In fact - I have got such bicycle :-). It has Westwood style Alu rims
(32 front 40 rear). It has also brakes with logo - part of toothed wheel
and text "Magura" next to it. I do not want to spoil anythiong - those
brakes they need some service - hose line is bent in two places and I do
not know if I can buy a hose like that.


Magura rim brakes don't have fancy pads and don't work like classic
bowdens, they have rather simple pads and work more like a hydraulic
press ;-)


But not _those_ brakes - besides hydraulic hose istead of Bowden cable
and lever they work like classic brakes - squizze rim with rubber pads ;-)
Pads look more or less like this:
_____
____| |____
| |
| O |
|____ ____|
|_____|
_____________
/ \
/_______________\
|____|_____|____|


On the hard plastic that shape is glued rubber pad. They are pushed to
the side of the rim with small pushrod in the centre of pad.

They are definitely not vintage - they're still being sold
with minor design changes only.


'Yours' are not but mine are...


Your request seems a bit confusing to me?


Why? I am aware about modern Magura brakes but when they started
production? I was serching the Web with no success...


++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
"Frame weight is 1/4 as important as bike weight,
and bike weight is 1/10 as important as body weight.
If you want to go fast, ride harder and more often."
Grant Petersen, Rivendell Bicycle Works
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++


Agreed.


It is a very kind of you :-)


Ciao..


Bye!

--

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
"Frame weight is 1/4 as important as bike weight,
and bike weight is 1/10 as important as body weight.
If you want to go fast, ride harder and more often."
Grant Petersen, Rivendell Bicycle Works
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
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Old November 4th 08, 02:09 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
M-gineering
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Default Vintage BSA bicycle

Coaster wrote:
Bernhard Agthe wrote:

Hi,

Hi,

Coaster wrote:
Hi, I am serching for any info about 3 speed 'Golden Clubman' vintage
BSA Bicycle (S-A hub's dated 1962) equipped with vintage Magura brakes
(hydraulic levers, hydraulic brakes with fancy pads but works like
classic bowdens - squizing aluminium rim).


If you're interested in a 1962 bike you won't get Aluminium Rims or
Magura rim brakes.


In fact - I have got such bicycle :-). It has Westwood style Alu rims
(32 front 40 rear). It has also brakes with logo - part of toothed wheel
and text "Magura" next to it. I do not want to spoil anythiong - those
brakes they need some service - hose line is bent in two places and I do
not know if I can buy a hose like that.


Magura rim brakes don't have fancy pads and don't work like classic
bowdens, they have rather simple pads and work more like a hydraulic
press ;-)


But not _those_ brakes - besides hydraulic hose istead of Bowden cable
and lever they work like classic brakes - squizze rim with rubber pads ;-)
Pads look more or less like this:
_____
____| |____
| |
| O |
|____ ____|
|_____|
_____________
/ \
/_______________\
|____|_____|____|


On the hard plastic that shape is glued rubber pad. They are pushed to
the side of the rim with small pushrod in the centre of pad.

They are definitely not vintage - they're still being sold
with minor design changes only.


'Yours' are not but mine are...


Your request seems a bit confusing to me?


Why? I am aware about modern Magura brakes but when they started
production? I was serching the Web with no success...



I've got a leaflet for the Magura HydroStop dated 7/89, and design
drawings dated 12/87



--
/Marten

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Old November 4th 08, 02:51 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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M-gineering wrote:
[...] I am aware about modern Magura brakes but when they started
production? I was serching the Web with no success...



I've got a leaflet for the Magura HydroStop dated 7/89, and design
drawings dated 12/87


Thanks a lot!
Thank to you (HydroStop was the magic word) I have just found some pics:
http://www.pdeleuw.de/fahrrad/img/IMGP1068-2.jpg
Those look much modern and solid then mine. Comparing, mine has stiff
hoses about 4 mm and has very tiny and delicate screws.

As to pads - they are almost the same construction like those:
http://tinyurl.com/64blpx
But mine pads are shorter and has pattern like this classic:
http://www.fahrrad-richter.de/images...huh-Fibrax.jpg

Do you have scans of your leaflet?

Thanks,
Coaster


--

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
"Frame weight is 1/4 as important as bike weight,
and bike weight is 1/10 as important as body weight.
If you want to go fast, ride harder and more often."
Grant Petersen, Rivendell Bicycle Works
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ++++
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Old November 4th 08, 04:03 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
Bernhard Agthe
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Hi,

Coaster wrote:
Bernhard Agthe wrote:
In fact - I have got such bicycle :-). It has Westwood style Alu rims


Just wondering, since at that time, steel rims were standard. Magura
brakes might or might not have been available then. Probably the bike is
a late-80ies or early-90ies model with an older hub?

(32 front 40 rear). It has also brakes with logo - part of toothed wheel
and text "Magura" next to it. I do not want to spoil anythiong - those
brakes they need some service - hose line is bent in two places and I do
not know if I can buy a hose like that.


The logo is still the same ;-)

Clean the brakes (levers, hoses and calipers) and press them hard
several times. Then check everything for leakage. If you can't find
leakage on the levers or cylinders, you're most likely fine, the hoses
can be exchanged. You'll need the hoses and various small parts
(available as a repair kit from Magura). You'll also need to refill
("bleed") the system after changing the hoses, so you might need the
"refill kit" - check their website or talk to your local dealer. The
manuals available on their website show the whole process quite clearly.

But not _those_ brakes - besides hydraulic hose istead of Bowden cable
and lever they work like classic brakes - squizze rim with rubber pads ;-)


Yes, *these* brakes ;-) They work by using hydraulic cylinders pressing
the pads against the rims while "classic bowdens" pull some lever with
attached brake pads against the rims ;-) The effect is the same, that's
right.

Pads look more or less like this:

[snip]

They still look like this on the latest models. But that's not fancy,
that's Magura ;-)

They are definitely not vintage - they're still being sold
with minor design changes only.


'Yours' are not but mine are...


Don't worry, they only changed the looks. The technology is still "state
of the art"...

I would agree with the "vintage" if you referred to the road-bike
versions with road levers and the nifty calipers which have been out of
production for many years...

Your request seems a bit confusing to me?


Why? I am aware about modern Magura brakes but when they started
production? I was serching the Web with no success...


Check out the other post - late 80ies? They definitely have not yet lost
any value ;-)

Have fun...
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Old November 4th 08, 07:41 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
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On Tue, 4 Nov 2008 02:41:59 -0800 (PST), Coaster
wrote:

Hi, I am serching for any info about 3 speed 'Golden Clubman' vintage
BSA Bicycle (S-A hub's dated 1962) equipped with vintage Magura brakes
(hydraulic levers, hydraulic brakes with fancy pads but works like
classic bowdens - squizing aluminium rim).
Maybe someone has catalogues, manuals, photos?

Many thanks
Coaster


Dear Coaster,

These are vintage BSA bicycles:
http://utopiaparkway.com/ba/images/bicycles/4.jpg

http://books.google.com/books?id=gFM...page#PPA278,M1

After them, everything went downhill.

Cheers,

Carl Fogel
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Old November 4th 08, 08:00 PM posted to rec.bicycles.tech
M-gineering
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Default Vintage BSA bicycle

Coaster wrote:
M-gineering wrote:
[...] I am aware about modern Magura brakes but when they started
production? I was serching the Web with no success...



I've got a leaflet for the Magura HydroStop dated 7/89, and design
drawings dated 12/87



Do you have scans of your leaflet?


Dutch text, and 15 yo thermal image faxes, won't be very usefull i'm afraid

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