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Insight into the phases of the Internet forum life cycle: a perspective
On Jul 28, 2:25*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Jul 24, 9:55 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] The cost of organically grown foods at the supermarket is beyond the means of the average consumer. Only upper middle class types can afford it. You missed or deliberately ignore my point regarding foods (some genetically modified) laced with herbicides, pesticides, hormones, antibiotics contributing to ever increasing health care costs. *What with insurance premiums, deductibles, co-pays, etc., out of pocket heath care costs are beyond the means for many of us. Health care costs are outrageously expensive. The Damn Dems (Obama Care) never know how to fix anything. America badly needs a single payer system like they have in Canada and the UK. However, some folks still believe that health care is NOT a right! Diversion duly noted. Healthcare is expensive everywhere, but the point was that the food we eat contributes to good or bad health and when bad, inflates health care costs . I have friend in the UK and if you really want decent health care you have to still pay out of pocket. My friend couldn't even get a routine PSA test approved in the UK. Health care in the UK is not all it is cracked up to be. I know nothing though about how well implemented in places like Cananda or Sweden, The FDA determines whether foods are safe or not, not food cranks who write for magazines like Prevention. -- Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Insight into the phases of the Internet forum life cycle: a perspective
On Jul 28, 2:16*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Jul 24, 9:51 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Yes, the subtlety does indeed escape me. It is an alternative to conventional medical practice and treatment. As long as you are not relying on it to the exclusion of what is KNOWN, I suppose it will not do any harm. But it is not KNOWN that it will do any good either. [...] Some of the supplements I take have proved their worth in clinical trials, so they are kown to be of benefit. Clinical trials are pretty worthless too. A double blind scientific study on a large scale is just about the only way to prove something. Whereas it is a given that the large the test base the move valid the data, it is also a given that without scientifically conducted clinical trials (which are scientifically conducted), we woudl be without many of the benefiial drugs that we rely on today. Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
... On Jul 28, 2:25 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] The FDA determines whether foods are safe or not, not food cranks who write for magazines like Prevention. The FDA sets compliance guidelines limiting the amount of contaminants in food, but allows a percentage of mold, parasites, rodent hairs, animal droppings (feces), insect droppings (feces), insect parts, insect eggs maggots, whole insects, sand and grit, sticks and stones, and even cigarette butts. A small percent Ed might counter. Well, think again. A University of Ohio fact study estimates that on average a person consumes from one to two pounds of insects each year, without even knowing it. So much for the FDA and Food, but what about drugs, Ed might say? Well, Fen Phen, Redux, Seldane, Posicor, Duract, Hismanal, Rezulin, Propulsid, Lotronex, Raplon, Baycol, and Raxar are the so-called dirty dozen drugs that the FDA pulled from the market from 1997 to 2001 because they caused a whole bunch of problems, all of which had lawsuits attached to them. In some cases, these medicines were on the market for over twenty years, which seems way to long after known health adverse reactions occurred. Some of these adverse reactions only took months to get the medicines removed. [...] More of the same on and on. Unlike Ed, I don't state opinions as though they were facts. Unlike Ed, I corroborate my statements. When I argue, I cite facts and I have cited enough facts above to indicate that Ed's faith in the FDA is questionable. I can see you are well underway to becoming a crackpot on food and health issues. This is a fate that often befalls those who for the first time in their lives feel threatened by their own mortality. Have fun! It might make a difference on the margin, but I doubt it. The bottom line is that no one will listen to you because you lack the necessary credentials. If you ever start proselytizing, you could become dangerous and a menace to others. Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
... On Jul 28, 2:25 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Health care costs are outrageously expensive. The Damn Dems (Obama Care) never know how to fix anything. America badly needs a single payer system like they have in Canada and the UK. However, some folks still believe that health care is NOT a right! Diversion duly noted. Healthcare is expensive everywhere, but the point was that the food we eat contributes to good or bad health and when bad, inflates health care costs . Lots of other factors contribute to poor health besides what foods we eat. I have friend in the UK and if you really want decent health care you have to still pay out of pocket. My friend couldn't even get a routine PSA test approved in the UK. A primary care doctor will determine what is routine and what is not routine, not the patient. Health care in the UK is not all it is cracked up to be. I know nothing though about how well implemented in places like Cananda or Sweden, Americans want way too much when it comes to health care. All we have a right to is garden variety health care. But the problem is that even garden variety health care is expensive. It need not be as is proven by the VA health care system. -- Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
... On Jul 28, 2:33 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] The purpose of a newsgroup only exists in theory. It does not exist in fact. The purpose of a newsgroup does exist in fact, It is just that trolls like you invest a newsgroup, make it their cyber-playpen and evenso bold as to erroneously state that fun and games is i the sole purpose of a newsgroup. Sound familiar? I remember how Ed Gin and you managed to sidetrack completely the purpose of ARBR. In order for a newsgroup to stay on topic you would have to have a moderator. Without a moderator newsgroups wander off topic and end in personal insults. Well a moderator would at least corral the likes of your ilk. that;s a given A moderator would never have permitted your feud with Ed Gin to take place on ARBR. My Greatness is that I am a better ass kicker than most. So you say. Even if this were true, and that is up for debate, you take pride in that which in the greater scheme of things means so very little, really. Usenet is for fun and games only. Even Tom Sherman has come to that conclusion. If you are not here for your own personal amusement, then you know next to nothing about human nature. Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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"JimmyMac" wrote in message
... On Jul 28, 2:33 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] My Greatness is that I am a better ass kicker than most. So you say a comfortable distance from behind a monitor and keyboard. You do not know how to play with ideas. It is why you are always behind the eight ball when it comes to someone like me who does know how to play. In real life I would not give you the time of day, nor you me. The beauty of Usenet is that total strangers can confront one another in an unfriendly fashion, something you do not have a clue about. Tom Sherman is far more up to speed on Usenet than you. You have never enjoyed Usenet. It is why you should leave. You want friendly personal relationships even in cyber space. I don't. I want confrontation and animosity. I love to kick ass on Usenet. Just ask Tom Sherman. We are in a contest to see if his dumb ass is harder than my foot. Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Jul 28, 2:16*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... On Jul 24, 9:51 pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote: [...] Yes, the subtlety does indeed escape me. It is an alternative to conventional medical practice and treatment. As long as you are not relying on it to the exclusion of what is KNOWN, I suppose it will not do any harm. But it is not KNOWN that it will do any good either. [...] Some of the supplements I take have proved their worth in clinical trials, so they are kown to be of benefit. Clinical trials are pretty worthless too. A double blind scientific study on a large scale is just about the only way to prove something. Granted, the greater the scale of test subjects participating, the more valid the findings, but clinical trials are limited by the amount of volunteers and the amount of available funding. Regardless, clinical trials are conducted as controlled scientific double blind studies. Without clinical trials, we would not have many of the drugs that are available to us today. Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On Jul 28, 2:33*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... [...] *You never have been able to comprehend the purpose of a newsgroup and you own that to you grateness. The purpose of a newsgroup only exists in theory. It does not exist in fact. In order for a newsgroup to stay on topic you would have to have a moderator. Without a moderator newsgroups wander off topic and end in personal insults. My Greatness is that I am a better ass kicker than most. You forgot to add at a safe distance from behind a monitor and keyboard. Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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Insight into the phases of the Internet forum life cycle: a perspective
On Jul 28, 2:33*pm, "Edward Dolan" wrote:
"JimmyMac" wrote in message ... [...] *You never have been able to comprehend the purpose of a newsgroup and you own that to you grateness. The purpose of a newsgroup only exists in theory. It does not exist in fact. In order for a newsgroup to stay on topic you would have to have a moderator. Without a moderator newsgroups wander off topic and end in personal insults. The purpose of a newegroup exints in reality. Unfortunately, the purpose of a troll also exists in reality, that is to underminde the purpose of a newsgroup by transforming it into a "fun and games" cyber playpen. Surely you can relate that. Its your modus operanid. My Greatness is that I am a better ass kicker than most. -- Ed Dolan the Great - Minnesota aka Saint Edward the Great - Order of the Perpetual Sorrows - Minnesota |
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On 7/28/2011 12:58 PM, JimmyMac wrote:
[...] Always remember, a little learning is a dangerous thing! With a little learning, you might not be such a close-minded, opinionated blockhead. Uh, you are referring to Mr. Ed Dolan here? -- Tºm Shermªn - 42.435731°N, 83.985007°W I am a vehicular cyclist. |
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