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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
On 12/07/17 13:55, JNugent wrote:
On 12/07/2017 11:03, Bod wrote: A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed police biker. Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk. The 60-year-old driver was taken to court and ordered to pay £1,038 in fines and costs. He was also given five points on his licence for the manoeuvre in Park Lane West, Tipton, last November after being found court at Birmingham Magistrates’ Court. He was among the first motorists in the country to be taken to court after the operation to protect cyclists from ‘close passes’. http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/12/underc...-bike-6772386/ Can anyone quote a section of a Road Traffic Act which specifies this "1.5 metres"? Note also the quoted rules in the story: QUOTE: When overtaking motorists should give ‘at least’ as much room to cyclists and horse riders as they would another car, according to the Highway Code. ENDQUOTE And 1.5 metres is a fair bit more than another car will or can be given in many circumstances. The picture shows 1.5m between wheels. 1.5m is certainly not a "fair bit more..." at mirror/elbow height. Does this 1.5 meter "rule" (wherever it is alleged to come from) not apply when a cyclist pulls alongside a vehicle stopped at traffic lights? If not, why not? Surely the drivers of vehicles overtaken by cyclists have just as much right to expect the same safety margin and the same courtesy that cyclists expect from everyone else on the planet? You should try and work out the difference in the dynamics of passing things that are moving and things that are stationary. QUOTE: Rules for all road users (including cyclists) If a driver is trying to overtake you, maintain a steady course and speed, *slowing* *down* if necessary to let the vehicle pass. *Never* obstruct drivers who wish to pass. ENDQUOTE And? |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 22:32:05 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Rob Morley wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:45:16 +0100 Incubus wrote: Why don't the Police 'pose' as pedestrians to catch cyclists riding on pavements? Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly just an annoyance that other people like to exaggerate - they rarely kill anyone, much more often a case of "nearly hit someone". Where it is an acknowledged problem, in places like Cambridge, they have occasional crack-downs on pavement cycling and bikes with no lights, but that's all it merits really. My long dead mother used to walk to the shop. She was very fail and could not see very well. If some footpath riding **** of a cyclist had hit her, the cyclist would have killed her and then smartly ****ed off, as scum cyclists tend to do. I'm sorry to hear of your poor mother's acci - oh wait it never happened, you just made it up! But then again, in your own words: "Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly just an annoyance". You disgust me. -- Bah, and indeed, Humbug |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for driving too close to bike
Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Rob Morley wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:45:16 +0100 Incubus wrote: Why don't the Police 'pose' as pedestrians to catch cyclists riding on pavements? Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly just an annoyance that other people like to exaggerate - they rarely kill anyone, much more often a case of "nearly hit someone". Where it is an acknowledged problem, in places like Cambridge, they have occasional crack-downs on pavement cycling and bikes with no lights, but that's all it merits really. My long dead mother used to walk to the shop. She was very fail and could not see very well. If some footpath riding **** of a cyclist had hit her, the cyclist would have killed her and then smartly ****ed off, as scum cyclists tend to do. In other words, your mother never encountered one of these 'scum cyclists' just, in fact, as you never have... Sixty odd years and counting, still waiting for a 'thug cyclist' to challenge you, you and your 5" chisel in your back pocket at the ready. Do they do Mindfulness courses round your way? They can teach you to deal with life's actual events instead of obsessing over perceived possibilities. You know, so that you can live in the true 'now' - without regretting the past or fearing the future. |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for driving too close to bike
Christie wrote:
Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Rob Morley wrote: On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:45:16 +0100 Incubus wrote: Why don't the Police 'pose' as pedestrians to catch cyclists riding on pavements? Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly just an annoyance that other people like to exaggerate - they rarely kill anyone, much more often a case of "nearly hit someone". Where it is an acknowledged problem, in places like Cambridge, they have occasional crack-downs on pavement cycling and bikes with no lights, but that's all it merits really. My long dead mother used to walk to the shop. She was very fail and could not see very well. If some footpath riding **** of a cyclist had hit her, the cyclist would have killed her and then smartly ****ed off, as scum cyclists tend to do. In other words, your mother never encountered one of these 'scum cyclists' just, in fact, as you never have... Sixty odd years and counting, still waiting for a 'thug cyclist' to challenge you, you and your 5" chisel in your back pocket at the ready. Do they do Mindfulness courses round your way? They can teach you to deal with life's actual events instead of obsessing over perceived possibilities. You know, so that you can live in the true 'now' - without regretting the past or fearing the future. I insure my house against the possibility of it burning down etc. I guess that in your dim eyes I'm being over cautious. Next time think before you type your ********. |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 22:32:05 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote:
Rob Morley wrote: Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly just an annoyance that other people like to exaggerate - they rarely kill anyone, much more often a case of "nearly hit someone". Where it is an acknowledged problem, in places like Cambridge, they have occasional crack-downs on pavement cycling and bikes with no lights, but that's all it merits really. My long dead mother used to walk to the shop. She was very fail and could not see very well. If some footpath riding **** of a cyclist had hit her, the cyclist would have killed her and then smartly ****ed off, as scum cyclists tend to do. But they didn't, thus providing yet another data point confirming the hypothesis that people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly just an annoyance that other people like to exaggerate - they rarely kill anyone. regards, Ian SMith -- |\ /| no .sig |o o| |/ \| |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for driving too close to bike
Ian Smith wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 22:32:05 +0100, Mr Pounder Esquire wrote: Rob Morley wrote: Because people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly just an annoyance that other people like to exaggerate - they rarely kill anyone, much more often a case of "nearly hit someone". Where it is an acknowledged problem, in places like Cambridge, they have occasional crack-downs on pavement cycling and bikes with no lights, but that's all it merits really. My long dead mother used to walk to the shop. She was very fail and could not see very well. If some footpath riding **** of a cyclist had hit her, the cyclist would have killed her and then smartly ****ed off, as scum cyclists tend to do. But they didn't, thus providing yet another data point confirming the hypothesis that people riding bicycles inconsiderately on pavements are mostly just an annoyance that other people like to exaggerate - they rarely kill anyone. regards, Ian SMith I did say "If". |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:45:16 +0100, Incubus wrote:
On 12/07/2017 11:03, Bod wrote: A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed police biker. Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk. The 60-year-old driver was taken to court and ordered to pay £1,038 in fines and costs. He was also given five points on his licence for the manoeuvre in Park Lane West, Tipton, last November after being found court at Birmingham Magistrates’ Court. He was among the first motorists in the country to be taken to court after the operation to protect cyclists from ‘close passes’. http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/12/underc...-bike-6772386/ Why don't the Police 'pose' as pedestrians to catch cyclists riding on pavements? Better yet, why aren't they focussing on violent offence and thefts? It's too difficult for them. A traffic officer who'd stopped me for a routine safety check actually said to me, "I'm not qualified to solve real crimes". -- Q: What's the difference between an Irish funeral and an Irish wedding? A: One less drunk. |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for drivingtoo close to bike
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:03:40 +0100, Bod wrote:
A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed police biker. Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk. The 60-year-old driver was taken to court and ordered to pay £1,038 in fines and costs. He was also given five points on his licence for the manoeuvre in Park Lane West, Tipton, last November after being found court at Birmingham Magistrates’ Court. So how did they catch up with him? Must be damn fit police. He was among the first motorists in the country to be taken to court after the operation to protect cyclists from ‘close passes’. I drive and cycle, and I find it absurd that cars leave such a *large* gap. I only need a foot or two when I'm cycling, because I cycle in a straight line. Same gap as cars leave each other when passing in the *opposite direction*. There's enough room on most roads for a car to overtake a cyclist when there's another car coming the other way, yet so many morons want to drive right over the other side of the road to overtake the cyclist, somehow imagining he's the width of a car. http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/12/underc...-bike-6772386/ That's called entrapment, the police should all be fired. You can't just go around encouraging people to break the law. Imagine I placed my wallet in front of someone on a bus, filmed him take it, then reported him to the police, the police would laugh at me. -- If a cat joined the Red Cross, would it become a First-Aid Kit? |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for driving too close to bike
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 15:45:16 +0100, Incubus wrote: On 12/07/2017 11:03, Bod wrote: A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed police biker. Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk. The 60-year-old driver was taken to court and ordered to pay £1,038 in fines and costs. He was also given five points on his licence for the manoeuvre in Park Lane West, Tipton, last November after being found court at Birmingham Magistrates' Court. He was among the first motorists in the country to be taken to court after the operation to protect cyclists from 'close passes'. http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/12/underc...-bike-6772386/ Why don't the Police 'pose' as pedestrians to catch cyclists riding on pavements? Better yet, why aren't they focussing on violent offence and thefts? It's too difficult for them. A traffic officer who'd stopped me for a routine safety check actually said to me, "I'm not qualified to solve real crimes". Yeah, like **** he did. This would be the time that you got done for defective exhaust. This because you could not afford to have it fixed. Get a job ya little ******. Why must you always tell lies? You little piece of **** |
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Undercover police posing as cyclists catch trucker for driving too close to bike
James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 12 Jul 2017 11:03:40 +0100, Bod wrote: A lorry driver has become one of the first people to be prosecuted for driving too close to cyclists after being caught by a plain-clothed police biker. Officers posed as cyclists in Birmingham and the black country to try and catch drivers putting bikers lives at risk. The 60-year-old driver was taken to court and ordered to pay £1,038 in fines and costs. He was also given five points on his licence for the manoeuvre in Park Lane West, Tipton, last November after being found court at Birmingham Magistrates' Court. So how did they catch up with him? Must be damn fit police. He was among the first motorists in the country to be taken to court after the operation to protect cyclists from 'close passes'. I drive and cycle, and I find it absurd that cars leave such a *large* gap. I only need a foot or two when I'm cycling, because I cycle in a straight line. Same gap as cars leave each other when passing in the *opposite direction*. There's enough room on most roads for a car to overtake a cyclist when there's another car coming the other way, yet so many morons want to drive right over the other side of the road to overtake the cyclist, somehow imagining he's the width of a car. http://metro.co.uk/2017/07/12/underc...-bike-6772386/ That's called entrapment, the police should all be fired. You can't just go around encouraging people to break the law. Imagine I placed my wallet in front of someone on a bus, filmed him take it, then reported him to the police, the police would laugh at me. Prick. |
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