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urc's resident "troll feeder"
After over 45 posts in the last 4 days I confess to having consigned "Just
this guy" yet again to my "killfile". His endless drivelling responses label him as much of a "troll" as "judith" / "nuxx" ( in his/her countless aliases) and he has finally joined that select band of permanent residents. It would seem to be a good idea that he actually gets on his bike instead of his "high horse" for a change. I shall be subjected to flames I know, but he, above all others, bears a large responsibility for dragging this NG back into the mire. -- Trevor A Panther In South Yorkshire, England, United Kingdom. www.tapan.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk (Under reconstruction) |
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On Jan 26, 2:13*am, "Trevor A Panther"
wrote: After over 45 posts in the last 4 days I confess to having consigned "Just this guy" yet again to my "killfile". His endless drivelling responses label him as much of a "troll" *as *"judith" / "nuxx" ( in his/her countless aliases) and he has finally joined that select band of permanent residents. Are you suggesting that Judith and I are the same person? If so, you're not exactly the sharpest tool in the box, are you? Do you think that by giving yourself a pompous avatar, you'll persuade people that you must be automatically right about everything? You are right, however, that Crapman is a ****wit and is more responsible than anyone for the state of URC. It's high time that he and his motorist-hating sycophants stopped using this group as a platform for their warped anti-car views. The murderer Crapman has even resorted to attempting to censor discussions about the efficacy of speed cameras by deliberately stirring it when everyone is getting along fine and having an adult debate (without him of course), such is his fear that the truth will emerge if he doesn't (cf the recent 100+- post thread started by me, where *every* post was a positive and worthwhile contribution to the discussion - except his one). Newsgroups are supposed to be about debate and discussion, yet he wishes to suppress the "wrong" kinds of debate and discussion, and even when he deigns to get involved in a debate, his infamous and sneering "style" towards his opponents (not to mention his constant and blatant dishonesty, together with his ever-present hidden agendas) is deeply unhelpful. I shall be subjected to flames I know, but he, above all others, bears a large responsibility for dragging this NG back into the mire. Actually, I think the majority here agree with you. Perhaps you and them need to unite and tell Crapman in no uncertain terms that he's not welcome here. But you won't, because you're scared. You know that him, Spindrift and their posse of hate-filled psychopaths have a track record of writing abusive letters, making bomb threats and so on and so forth against anyone who dares to oppose them, and you don't want to become their latest target. Still, don't you think you ought to stand up to them and send out the message that you will not have your rights to free speech denied by little Bin Ladens who try to silence their opponents with fear? When people think of cyclists, do you want them to think of lying, murdering, car-hating terrorist wannabes, or reasonable, moderate types who (just like most motorists) only want to be treated fairly and reasonably, and not to be despised and discriminated against just for choosing their particular method of transport? Get rid of the car-hating freaks, and the "trolling" will disappear. You know it perfectly well. "Trolls" only bother with groups which house controversial or infamous posters in the first place, and there would be nothing remotely controversial or infamous about this group if only the despised motorist-haters were ousted. Why would anyone bother "trolling" a group which was genuinely just about cycling discussion, any more than they would bother "trolling" a group about knitting? It would be boring. The answer to this group's problems is always the same: get rid of the universally loathed loonies like Chapman and Spindrift, who are only using this group to further their own spiteful agendas anyway, and everything will be fine. Why not try it? Nothing else has worked, has it? It's time for some realism. You know it makes sense. |
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Trevor A Panther wrote:
After over 45 posts in the last 4 days I confess to having consigned "Just this guy" yet again to my "killfile". His endless drivelling responses label him as much of a "troll" as "judith" / "nuxx" ( in his/her countless aliases) and he has finally joined that select band of permanent residents. It would seem to be a good idea that he actually gets on his bike instead of his "high horse" for a change. I shall be subjected to flames I know, but he, above all others, bears a large responsibility for dragging this NG back into the mire. And I thought they'd both flown south for the winter, I hadn't seen either of them in ages. Oh well, see how it pans out. |
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:13:00 GMT, "Trevor A Panther"
said in : I shall be subjected to flames I know, but he, above all others, bears a large responsibility for dragging this NG back into the mire. Really? Despite completely ignoring nuxxy and judith when others are feeding them? Fascinating. Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound GPG sig #3FA3BCDE http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/pgp-public-key.txt |
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:25:30 +0100, Tosspot
said in : And I thought they'd both flown south for the winter, I hadn't seen either of them in ages. Oh well, see how it pans out. No, nuxxy is still ranting and judith is still nym-shifting like crazy, and a few people (not me) are responding to both. If Trevor wants to use his killfile for argumentative people then that's his prerogative. I know I am slow to diagnose trolls. Guy -- May contain traces of irony. Contents liable to settle after posting. http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk 85% of helmet statistics are made up, 69% of them at CHS, Puget Sound GPG sig #3FA3BCDE http://www.chapmancentral.co.uk/pgp-public-key.txt |
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:11:42 +0000,
Just zis Guy, you know? wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:25:30 +0100, Tosspot said in : And I thought they'd both flown south for the winter, I hadn't seen either of them in ages. Oh well, see how it pans out. No, nuxxy is still ranting and judith is still nym-shifting like crazy, and a few people (not me) are responding to both. If Trevor wants to use his killfile for argumentative people then that's his prerogative. I know I am slow to diagnose trolls. Which is part of the problem. Do you think that Tony Dragon is a cyclist? Or even someone who replies in a fair and even-handed manner? Do you think you should continue to reply to him until he joins the mono-maniacs here? -- Andy Leighton = "The Lord is my shepherd, but we still lost the sheep dog trials" - Robert Rankin, _They Came And Ate Us_ |
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 02:13:00 GMT, "Trevor A Panther"
wrote: After over 45 posts in the last 4 days I confess to having consigned "Just this guy" yet again to my "killfile". His endless drivelling responses label him as much of a "troll" as "judith" / "nuxx" ( in his/her countless aliases) and he has finally joined that select band of permanent residents. It would seem to be a good idea that he actually gets on his bike instead of his "high horse" for a change. I shall be subjected to flames I know, but he, above all others, bears a large responsibility for dragging this NG back into the mire. I've become more aggressive in kill-filing recently. I used to find the rantings from the likes of Nuxxy and the peurile goading from Judith faintly amusing, but it gets boring after a while. Judith is a bit of a challenge as she keeps nymshifting, presumably because she is some kind of megalomaniac and can't believe people really don't want to read what she says, but I'm winning that one just now. I've also taken to ignoring any thread either started merely to start a fight or hijacked by the non-cyclist wazoks. Most of the troll-responding you are complaining about happens in such threads anyway. Doubtless there are some here who would say that's a head-in-the-sand attitude. They can say that if they want, most of them are kill-filed anyway :-) It's a form of personal censorship, but no different from choosing to buy the Sun or the Telegraph or the Guardian, for example. And I might even get out on the bike today! |
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Trevor A Panther wrote:
After over 45 posts in the last 4 days I confess to having consigned "Just this guy" yet again to my "killfile". His endless drivelling responses label him as much of a "troll" as "judith" / "nuxx" ( in his/her countless aliases) and he has finally joined that select band of permanent residents. It would seem to be a good idea that he actually gets on his bike instead of his "high horse" for a change. I shall be subjected to flames I know, but he, above all others, bears a large responsibility for dragging this NG back into the mire. Guy has become an attention seeking narcissist, continually putting his hands up and saying 'who, me?' but continues to engage is unwinnable petty battles with obvious trolls, presumably because he sees himself as some kind of hero. It's not big, it's not clever, and it's making URC unpleasant for the rest of us. Like you, I just wish he'd **** off out on his bike for a bit and get a sense of perspective, before doing the decent thing and confining his posting to matters cycling... Tim -- My hearts numbered beat | Greetings from Birmingham, UK Still echoes in this empty room |All about me: www.nervouscyclist.org Fear wells in me, but nothing seems| Is your ISP pimping your data? Enough to defend Dave Matthews| www.badphorm.co.uk |
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On Mon, 26 Jan, Peter Grange wrote:
Judith is a bit of a challenge as she keeps nymshifting, presumably because she is some kind of megalomaniac and can't believe people really don't want to read what she says No, it's just because she's a destructive troll who has no goal at all other than to destroy this group. She has previously acknowledged that repeated nym-shifting is a key indicator of a troll. She meets even her own definition. One should probably feel pity for someone to whom such petty vindictiveness is a worthwhile goal, but actually, I think she's sunk below the level where I can even muster that much empathy. She's just an annoyance you have to live with - like the need to wipe your backside after you crap, removing the spew from judith is something that you simply do to get on with life. You don't derive pleasure from wiping your arse, but it doesn't really detriment your life either - just do it and forget it. Except Guy, of course, he likes to play with it then act surprised when some sticks and he gets shunned too. regards, Ian SMith -- |\ /| no .sig |o o| |/ \| |
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On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 09:11:42 +0000, "Just zis Guy, you know?"
wrote: On Mon, 26 Jan 2009 07:25:30 +0100, Tosspot said in : And I thought they'd both flown south for the winter, I hadn't seen either of them in ages. Oh well, see how it pans out. No, nuxxy is still ranting and judith is still nym-shifting like crazy, and a few people (not me) are responding to both. If Trevor wants to use his killfile for argumentative people then that's his prerogative. I know I am slow to diagnose trolls. Guy "slow to diagnose trolls" You are just slow - full stop. Any chance of coming clean over the question: Do you think that as a pedestrian you are more likely to be hit by a bike being intentionally ridden along the path than you are by a car being intentionally driven along the path? judith -- I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman) I have never said that I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman) I would challenge judith to find the place where I said I encourage my children to wear helmets. (Guy Chapman) I pointed out the web page He then quickly changed the web page - but "forgot" to change the date of last amendment so it looked like the change had been there for years. |
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