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'Bye 'Bye "Rider's commitment"
"DirtRoadie" wrote in message ... http://bit.ly/b1nofr DR I'm NOT siding with the CAS, but these types of agreements are disregarded in the law, like a pre-nuptial agreement given to a bride right before she walks down the isle. I don't know the facts here, just pointing out that these types of deals aren't iron clad. |
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'Bye 'Bye "Rider's commitment"
On Oct 20, 12:08*pm, "Philip W. Moore, Jr."
wrote: "DirtRoadie" wrote in message ... http://bit.ly/b1nofr I'm NOT siding with the CAS, but these types of agreements are disregarded in the law, like a pre-nuptial agreement given to a bride right before she walks down the isle. *I don't know the facts here, just pointing out that these types of deals aren't iron clad. No, but the CAS saying they don't understand what salary means is stupid. Obviously endorsements and taxes are calculated differently, as are bonuses, happy endings from the team masseuse, and money collected on Halloween for UNICEF. R |
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'Bye 'Bye "Rider's commitment"
On Oct 20, 10:08*am, "Philip W. Moore, Jr."
wrote: "DirtRoadie" wrote in message ... http://bit.ly/b1nofr DR I'm NOT siding with the CAS, but these types of agreements are disregarded in the law, like a pre-nuptial agreement given to a bride right before she walks down the isle. *I don't know the facts here, just pointing out that these types of deals aren't iron clad. I'd view it more like an unenforceable "liquidated damages" provision that constitutes a penalty rather than compensation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquidated_damages Back when these things were put in place I wondered about their legitimacy. We now have ONE answer. DR |
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'Bye 'Bye "Rider's commitment"
"DirtRoadie" wrote in message ... On Oct 20, 10:08 am, "Philip W. Moore, Jr." wrote: "DirtRoadie" wrote in message ... http://bit.ly/b1nofr DR I'm NOT siding with the CAS, but these types of agreements are disregarded in the law, like a pre-nuptial agreement given to a bride right before she walks down the isle. I don't know the facts here, just pointing out that these types of deals aren't iron clad. I'd view it more like an unenforceable "liquidated damages" provision that constitutes a penalty rather than compensation. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquidated_damages Back when these things were put in place I wondered about their legitimacy. We now have ONE answer. DR ________________ Excellent point, and one that I haven't thought of. Still, they could have said that. Or did they, in a foreign manner of speaking? |
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'Bye 'Bye "Rider's commitment"
On Oct 20, 11:01*am, "Philip W. Moore, Jr."
wrote: "DirtRoadie" wrote in message ... On Oct 20, 10:08 am, "Philip W. Moore, Jr." wrote: "DirtRoadie" wrote in message .... http://bit.ly/b1nofr DR I'm NOT siding with the CAS, but these types of agreements are disregarded in the law, like a pre-nuptial agreement given to a bride right before she walks down the isle. I don't know the facts here, just pointing out that these types of deals aren't iron clad. I'd view it more like an unenforceable *"liquidated damages" provision that constitutes a penalty rather than compensation.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquidated_damages Back when these things were put in place I wondered about their legitimacy. We now have ONE answer. DR ________________ Excellent point, and one that I haven't thought of. *Still, they could have said that. *Or did they, in a foreign manner of speaking? Well you made me find this: http://www.tas-cas.org/d2wfiles/docu...20internet.pdf In looking at the decision they refer throughout to whether there was a validly enforceable "penalty agreement." So they don't seem to have used the analysis I suggested. It looks as if they really are saying that the penalty agreement was really not an agreement - it was intended as only just a public statement. DR |
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'Bye 'Bye "Rider's commitment"
"DirtRoadie" wrote in message
... http://bit.ly/b1nofr DR Hard to believe there have only been a couple of relevant cases. Was it only riders lining up for the 'Tour that year who had to sign it, and nobody else? There have certainly been many dozens of suspensions since then, and apparently only one person who agreed to pay up? --Mike Jacoubowsky Chain Reaction Bicycles www.ChainReaction.com Redwood City & Los Altos, CA USA |
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'Bye 'Bye "Rider's commitment"
"DirtRoadie" wrote in message ... On Oct 20, 11:01 am, "Philip W. Moore, Jr." wrote: "DirtRoadie" wrote in message ... On Oct 20, 10:08 am, "Philip W. Moore, Jr." wrote: "DirtRoadie" wrote in message ... http://bit.ly/b1nofr DR I'm NOT siding with the CAS, but these types of agreements are disregarded in the law, like a pre-nuptial agreement given to a bride right before she walks down the isle. I don't know the facts here, just pointing out that these types of deals aren't iron clad. I'd view it more like an unenforceable "liquidated damages" provision that constitutes a penalty rather than compensation.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquidated_damages Back when these things were put in place I wondered about their legitimacy. We now have ONE answer. DR ________________ Excellent point, and one that I haven't thought of. Still, they could have said that. Or did they, in a foreign manner of speaking? Well you made me find this: http://www.tas-cas.org/d2wfiles/docu...20internet.pdf In looking at the decision they refer throughout to whether there was a validly enforceable "penalty agreement." So they don't seem to have used the analysis I suggested. It looks as if they really are saying that the penalty agreement was really not an agreement - it was intended as only just a public statement. DR ____________________ Hard to say, sounds like faulty, result-oriented reasoning, IMHO. -Philip |
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'Bye 'Bye "Rider's commitment"
"DirtRoadie" wrote in message ... On Oct 20, 11:01 am, "Philip W. Moore, Jr." wrote: "DirtRoadie" wrote in message ... On Oct 20, 10:08 am, "Philip W. Moore, Jr." wrote: "DirtRoadie" wrote in message ... http://bit.ly/b1nofr DR I'm NOT siding with the CAS, but these types of agreements are disregarded in the law, like a pre-nuptial agreement given to a bride right before she walks down the isle. I don't know the facts here, just pointing out that these types of deals aren't iron clad. I'd view it more like an unenforceable "liquidated damages" provision that constitutes a penalty rather than compensation.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liquidated_damages Back when these things were put in place I wondered about their legitimacy. We now have ONE answer. DR ________________ Excellent point, and one that I haven't thought of. Still, they could have said that. Or did they, in a foreign manner of speaking? Well you made me find this: http://www.tas-cas.org/d2wfiles/docu...20internet.pdf In looking at the decision they refer throughout to whether there was a validly enforceable "penalty agreement." So they don't seem to have used the analysis I suggested. It looks as if they really are saying that the penalty agreement was really not an agreement - it was intended as only just a public statement. DR ____________________ Hard to say, sounds like faulty, result-oriented reasoning, IMHO. -Philip |
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'Bye 'Bye "Rider's commitment"
"DirtRoadie" wrote in message ... http://bit.ly/b1nofr DR DR, Just thought how much better this thread would have been had you titled it "Court of Arbitration for Sport for Make Benefit Glorious Nation of Kazakhstan". -Philip |
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