Would this work?

Why isn't there a universal method for representing the terrain and
difficulty of bike paths/routes in the form of a graph like the one below?


____________________etc.
_____________/
/
____/
_____/

That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride
that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual representation
of another ride.

The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on
the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?

Perhaps you could explain what rises/runs are represented by your 'graph'.


"NY Rides" wrote in message
.net...
Why isn't there a universal method for representing the terrain and
difficulty of bike paths/routes in the form of a graph like the one below?


____________________etc.
_____________/
/
____/
_____/

That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride
that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual
representation
of another ride.

The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on
the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?

I guess that means no. But really, I think he wants some sort of scale
represented, both horizontally (miles) and vertically (feet).

"NY Rides" wrote in message
.net...
Perhaps you could explain what rises/runs are represented by your
'graph'.

What do you mean?

"NY Rides" wrote:

The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines
on the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?

Are you talking about elevation profiles? Any topo map software will
generate these if you want. The map kiosks at some sporting goods/outdoor
stores probably will generate elevation profiles also.

RFM
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On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 23:34:38 GMT, "Doug Purdy"
wrote:

Which means it wouldn't work. I loved the camera angle on the Tourwhen Tyler
Hamilton won the mountain stage. They made it look like the riders were
going up a 60 degree slope. I suspect in reallife the rise would be tiny
compared to the run and the graph would have to be huge to see any up/down.


I loved it too, Doug. Sadly, a quick glance at the road-side
spectators standing at about 30 degrees from the vertical made me
realise that the riders weren't multi-mega-superhuman. They were only
semi-multi-mega-superhuman.

James

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"NY Rides" wrote in message
.net...
Why isn't there a universal method for representing the terrain and
difficulty of bike paths/routes in the form of a graph like the one below?


____________________etc.
_____________/
/
____/
_____/

That way, one could become familiar with the basic configuration of a ride
that is comfortable for him/her and compare it to the visual
representation
of another ride.

The depth and duration of climbs can even be represented by crosslines on
the graph. Has this already been done? Am I just naive?


Delorme's Topo generates such route profiles:
http://www.delorme.com/topousa/default.asp

"-= ®atzofratzo =-" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:27:39 -0400, "Rixtory"
wrote:

8 days ago, I ordered some small items from Performance Bike catalog, via
telephone. I called today to inquire about the order, the woman I spoke
to
seemed not to care less that I hadn't received the order and said
standard
shipping (which I paid for) takes up to 10 days. I was trygin to be very

I placed an order with Cambria on Saturday. I called Thursday
afternoon to see about a tracking number and what-not. I was informed
that they should be putting the order together today and it should
ship by Friday. I was so ****ed I had steam coming out my ears. The
guy caved and gave me 2nd Day Air, which puts it on my doorstep
Monday, but sheesh. Three days (not counting Monday) to put an order
together? He said they were slow right now. I guess the #@&! so.

I just got an email from them with a tracking number and it's on the
way. I'd only order from them again if they were the last place on
earth that had what I needed. That may sound harsh, but there are
lots of internet bike shops out there that want business. When they
get some, they should act like they are grateful to have it by getting
your order out in a timely fashion. Otherwise, I won't waste my time
with them again. I'll gladly pay the other guy a little more if he
offers better service.



I just love you mail order junkies. You want it all ... best prices in the
country and top service to boot! What a hoot!!!!

What's all the cross-posting spam?

--
Robin Hubert

"Rixtory" wrote in message
...
8 days ago, I ordered some small items from Performance Bike catalog, via
telephone. I called today to inquire about the order, the woman I spoke to
seemed not to care less that I hadn't received the order and said standard
shipping (which I paid for) takes up to 10 days. I was trygin to be very
nice and said that such a delay really isn't good customer service - She
stated something to the effect if I don't like the service, I don't have
to
shop there. I then said I probably wouldn't and would go to Nashbar in
the
future - She said fine, they are just as slow. I held my tongue.

So I got off the phone totally steamed knowing I would never again
purchase
anything from Performance Bike and Feel like screaming that Performance
Bikes Sucks, but I won't I am wondering if others have had poor service
or
performance from them.


Cross-posting, cry-baby scumbag.



--
Robin Hubert

On Sat, 13 Sep 2003 00:48:14 GMT, "Slider2699"
wrote:

Sounds to me like the OP was unpleasant in his demeanor. Imagine, he knows
his item could take up to 10 days to ship, but he calls and harangues some
poor Performance rep because it hasn't arrived in 8 days. Then he makes a
snotty comment about how the delay isn't good for business. What a jerk.
It's not Performance's fault if the carrier takes a while to get it to him
UPS ground.

All true -- but: Nobody ever won an argument with a customer.

On Thu, 11 Sep 2003 22:27:39 -0400, Rixtory wrote:

8 days ago, I ordered some small items from Performance Bike catalog, via
telephone. I called today to inquire about the order, the woman I spoke to
seemed not to care less that I hadn't received the order and said standard
shipping (which I paid for) takes up to 10 days. I was trygin to be very
nice and said that such a delay really isn't good customer service - She
stated something to the effect if I don't like the service, I don't have to
shop there. I then said I probably wouldn't and would go to Nashbar in the
future - She said fine, they are just as slow. I held my tongue.

So I got off the phone totally steamed knowing I would never again purchase
anything from Performance Bike and Feel like screaming that Performance
Bikes Sucks, but I won't I am wondering if others have had poor service or
performance from them.

Cheers
rixz


I ordered a helmet for my son last spring. It was too small and I used
their measurements when I chose the size. I called and asked for a
postage paid return label (because after 20 yrs at the PO I know
EVERYONE has them) and they told me no, they only give them out if the
order was wrong because of something they did. Ok, but if I have your
label then I can just leave the box for the mailman and not have to go
to the PO (since I don't work there anymore). I mean, catalogs are
supposed to be convenient right? Not so with Performance. Shoulda gone
to LBS anyhow.
Ellen