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Pedal Melt-down...?
I got my new Muni 3 days ago, and absolutely love it. As some of you know, I bought a used KH24" Wheelset and the seller threw in a set of Wellgo B-27 pedals. I love the way these pedals hold my feet, no slips at all. Even while riding in the rain and back and forth through a big creek (50 or more times), my feet never slipped once. In fact, here is what I wrote just 3 days ago about my first ride with these pedals: "My new Muni is fitted with Wellgo B-27 pin pedals. These are my first metal pin type pedals. Having just rained prior to my ride, I never had even one pedal slip while on this nite ride. Wherever I wanted my feet, they were. These pedals rock." However, the seller also told me "before the sale" that the pedals had a "creaking" noise in them when pedaling. He said they were like this from the first day he used them. I did not check for the cause of this "creaking" before installing them on my new Muni. But today, the right pedal had a complete melt-down. I felt the pedal let go as I was riding. It actually slid off its on axle to the outside. There were tiny fragments of what used to be a sealed bearing stuck all throughout the grease. The other pedal was also making this noise. I disassembled it a few minutes ago, and the outer sealed bearing appears perfect, but the inner race had no bearing left in it at all. Bottom Line: I absolutely loved the feel of these Wellgo B-27 pedals. The large base and all the pins gave me great confidence while ridingl. Now I need help from my fellow Muni riders. What pedals should I buy now? Remember, I am 265 lbs of big boy abuse on top of two little pedals and one bad tire. Suggestions??? --chirokid-- -- chirokid "Unicycling can make you proud then humble in very quick succession." Mikefule ------------------------------------------------------------------------ chirokid's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4140 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27501 |
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I had the same problem with my B-27's. They had the best feel of any pedal I've used, but they only lasted me 3 months. Right away, I noticed that the end caps would come loose if I didn't check to make sure they were tight from time to time. While doing some pedal grabs and 3 foot drops, the right pedal started feeling lose. I checked the end cap and it was tight. Not trusting these for muni, I put them on an ultimate wheel I was learning to ride. The right pedal continued to get looser until it finally started locking up and then fell off. I'm not sure what pedal to suggest. I've had great luck with these; http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=218 They're cheap and they last forever, but the platform doesn't feel as stable as the B-27's. I'm using SNAFU's on my muni now and they have held up great. http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=524 They don't have as good of grip as the B-27's and they have a pretty tall profile. Good luck.... Joe -- Mojoe - The Muni Militia http://mojoe.unicyclist.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Mojoe's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/533 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27501 |
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I've never had a problem with my 'Odyssey Twisted Pro Pedals' (http://www.unicycle.com/shopping/shopexd.asp?id=214), and I'm not playing soft with these. Never done more than a couple foot drops, but I have put on around a hundred and fifty miles with no problems at all. They seem stable to me, but then again, I've never tried anything else. I checked some mountain bike reviews, and they mostly seemed pretty positive about this specific type. Good luck! -- paco - Creator of the "BUni" If you attempt to fail, and succeed, which one did you really do? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ paco's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/3715 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27501 |
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Bearing destruction is common, and expected, with pedals like the Wellgo B-27 and other pedals that use a similar design. One option is to get replacement bearings for your pedals. Bearings are about $8 each and you'll need two (one for each pedal). Replacement bearings are cheaper than new pedals. Figure on getting 3 months (maybe more) use with the new bearings before needing to replace them. The B-27's use 686ZZ bearings 13mm OD 6mm ID 5mm wide If you want new pedals I would recommend the 'AtomLab Aircorps' (http://tinyurl.com/79i8) or the 'Brooklyn Machine Works Shinburger' (http://www.brooklynmachineworks.com/). Checkernuts had the Shinburger pedals at the Vancouver Island Muni Weekend. They looked good and not as scary as I thought they would be. A large platform that is comfortable to stand on. Very grippy. And they use two or three cartridge bearings per pedal. Disadvantage is that they're heavy. The Atomlab Aircorps are great. They use a single cartridge bearing per pedal. I got about a year and a half out of a set of bearings with them. The Shinburger pedals are $99.99 at 'DansComp.com' (http://www.danscomp.com/). The Aircorps are about $95 at various online bike shops listed in my review of the pedals. 'Beyondbikes.com' (http://www.beyondbikes.com/) has them on sale for $79.99 right now. -- john_childs - Guinness Mojo john_childs (at) hotmail (dot) com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ john_childs's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/449 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27501 |
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Frank A. wrote: * You don't have to spend $100 for a good set of pedals but in my experience $30.00 was too little. * Cost is not a good indicator of pedal robustness. The Easton platform pedals sell for about $90 and they have the exact same problem with the bearing as the Wellgo B-27's. The Easton platform pedals use the same pedal design as the Wellgo's that destroys the cartridge bearings. The Shimano MX30 platform pedal (a.k.a. Shimano DX platform pedal) has gotten very good reviews from other muni riders too. It's a solid pedal for muni. I have not tried the Shimano pedal because my preference is for a larger platform, but if you like the shape and size of the DX style pedals the Shimano MX30's are a very good choice. The Shimano pedals usually sell in around the $90 range but I just saw them on 'PricePoint.com' (http://www.pricepoint.com/product837.html) for $59.98. If they're going for less on eBay that's good too. I got some of the Wellgo B-27 pedals when they were on sale at Performance. I got them for use on the Coker. The Coker doesn't get the abuse of a muni so the B-27's will hold up much longer. I'm not going to use the B-27's on my muni. -- john_childs - Guinness Mojo john_childs (at) hotmail (dot) com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ john_childs's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/449 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27501 |
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On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:49:14 -0500, Frank A.
wrote: Personally, I wouldn't try rebuilding them. From the prices John Childs quotes for replacement bearings, I would put that money towards a new pair of pedals with a better design. You don't have to spend $100 for a good set of pedals but in my experience $30.00 was too little. But wouldn't you have eliminated the worst part of the B-27's when you replace the bearings? Then, after their initial failure, you would have good-feeling and longer-lasting pedals for only $16. Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict -- I go a sort of ok speed on my Coker... - Roger Davies |
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Klaas Bil wrote: *On Mon, 1 Sep 2003 14:49:14 -0500, Frank A. wrote: Personally, I wouldn't try rebuilding them. From the prices John Childs quotes for replacement bearings, I would put that money towards a new pair of pedals with a better design. You don't have to spend $100 for a good set of pedals but in my experience $30.00 was too little. But wouldn't you have eliminated the worst part of the B-27's when you replace the bearings? Then, after their initial failure, you would have good-feeling and longer-lasting pedals for only $16. Klaas Bil - Newsgroup Addict * With replacement bearings you'll end up with functioning pedals again. But they won't last a long time because they bearings will self-destruct again. Depending on how much abuse the pedals get the new bearings could last 3 months, 6 months, more, less, it's hard to know. The fault is the pedal design and not the bearings. Short term it's cheaper to go with new bearings. Long term it's better to go with new pedals like the Shimano's, Aircorp's, or Shinburger's. -- john_childs - Guinness Mojo john_childs (at) hotmail (dot) com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ john_childs's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/449 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27501 |
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Pedal Melt-down...?
personally, im a fan of the bulletproofs. theres no better incentive than a bleeding shin with every mistake... -- muniracer ------------------------------------------------------------------------ muniracer's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4339 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27501 |
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I have the Zuzu's which are basically the bulletproofs, but with sealed bearings and more pins, and if you crankgrab or pedalgrab too much on ethier one, the platform will crack and eventually break off. They usually crack at the pins. Mine have already begun this process. I have some generic aluminum Diamondback pedals on my 20" which I bought at the local bike shop for $5 because a bearing was a bit loose, and they've held up great. I've done well over 500 attempted crank grabs on them, without a problem. I've also put well over 800 miles on them and no problems yet. They're the same as the bulletproof, except they don't have screw-in pins, so the platform is stronger. I've also heard good things about the DK Iron cross pedals (non-magnesium, sealed bearings). They are a bit heavy but they're ultra beefy, and seem to be good pedals. I don't know if they're made anymore, though. -- gerblefranklin If life had a meaning, would you want to know it? ------------------------------------------------------------------------ gerblefranklin's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/4295 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27501 |
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i rode a pair of shinburgers in germany, they feel realy good, but like the name says they tear up flesh realy easily. and they weigh about a ton. unless you unicycle is more about looks than performance then the extra weight just isn`t worth it. the profile hub is heavy enough as it is. i`ve got some shimano dx alikes by outland. and they still work after over a years hardcore abuse. i`ve nearly ground the pins off on my grab/grind side. i don`t actualy cover huge distances on my trials uni though, but i do ride at skateparks and do urban trials verry regularly, i.e. at least every other day. pedal fetish aside i`d just buy the next set i saw with sealed bearings, a large cnc`d platform, replacable hex pins and a place to open a beer bottle. -- evilewan - death or glory -- evilewan. see the rec.sport.unicycling maintainance FAQ @ http://evilewan.unicyclist.com/ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ evilewan's Profile: http://www.unicyclist.com/profile/1047 View this thread: http://www.unicyclist.com/thread/27501 |
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